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It's convoluted.

Using L1 is easy in concept and practice.

Going from L2 back to L1 in a direct way by closing the channel is bizarrely convoluted.

This needs to be fixed.

We will need to go from L1 to L2 seamlessly.

I believe this strongly.

Bigger blocks, batch transactions, different LN operability... Doesn't matter.

Not everyone can or wants to run a LN node etc and then pay high fees to open and close it.
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Jeff Swann 2y ago

It's not difficult or convoluted once you know what to do.

Lets say you have an L1 BTC balance at Swan or (god forbid) Coinbase. And you don't run a node, but you want that Bircoin on L2 in a LN wallet.

Open Wallet of Satoshi, tap recieve, tap on-chain BTC, copy

Go to Swan, go to withdraw, paste in BTC address.

Once the withdrawal is complete, all BTC will now be in WoS & on L2

You can now send to any other LN compatible wallet & your BTC stay on L2.

If you want to send back to L1, basically any LN wallet will also do that, WoS charges a small extra fee (which makes sense when onboarding), but most others only involve paying the normal on-chain fee to go back to L1, so I use Muun or something else to make txns back to cold storage.

If you have money in Strike or Cash app which both support LN txns then you shouldn't even need WoS. Any LN wallet will do.

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kyle 2y ago

assuming WoS is real . You don’t actually know cos it’s custodial and it basically poses the same custodial rug pull risk as coinbase

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Jeff Swann 2y ago

Where did I say leave anything in WoS? Don't leave it there if you're worried about that. You don't even have to leave it in a channel connected to WoS. Send from WoS to Muun, & then to Phoenix. I think the extra hop is unecessary, but it only costs a few sats & it's instant so whatever.

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kyle 2y ago

yeah your chat showed up in my thread, I interjected with some random bullshit thoughts, I’m not looking for a fight. I love you Jeff 😂