I rage when I see kids being babysat by the phone or a tablet at a nice restaurant. Get a babysitter and leave them home or just stay home. I am guilty of putting a movie on once or twice when I was at a doctor appointment when he was under two and naps were missed. He has a phone with GrapheneOS and an esim that he paid for with sats. He uses it for listening to music or audiobooks in the car.

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I think my kids can get phones when they buy them. I am not quite graphene but that's impressive

It was one of our old ones. He went on a trip with his grandparents and we figured he was old enough to understand the consequences of "running out of minutes" on the e-sim, but that way he could call or message us without bugging his grandparents. I think we got like one call and a couple of messages 😂. He's frugal with his sats and he's already a privacy nut that hates google and puts in fake birthdays on sites that ask for it.

I am going to get a notification from the ipads usage down 86% or 1.5hrs winters hard but vacations are for family

Exactly, screen time itself isn't bad ours is currently playing Mario tennis 😂. But being engaged on family outings and learning how to sit down for an hour or two at a restaurant are things kids need to do. We'll let ours bring a book or his ereader if we know we'll be a while. My sister's youngest can't sit at the table at home and eat without the phone in fromt of her 🙄

We brought a lego bucket for our sit down dinners