Bro.. they have all the money.

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In this case, that kind of doesn't matter, because Bitcoin doesn't run by who has more money, Bitcoin runs by the nodes, 5 consensus, the nodes, the code, the code can't change. So that's what I mean, they can have all the Bitcoin, but as long as the nodes don't update whatever code they change, than nothing changes. And the price will keep running away from them.. it will be bitcoin cash all over again.

They dgaf about node counts

Even if America has the money, if we were dumb enough to try forking only in our favor, do you think the rest of the world would follow? I'm doubtful.

I don’t know. I imagine anyone with real amounts of money tied up will go with the flow of most fiat returns.

Yeah, I get that, but if they're thinking with a fiat mind, wouldn't they also be making short term choices? Maybe that's a big assumption, but that kind of mentality makes me think that the rest of network would switch to the proper chain and suction out the value of the person's large sums of money. I still think most bitcoiners (and hopefully any normies) would point their nodes in the right direction.

The nodes don’t matter. It’s a nerd obsession that totally missed the human aspect of all of this. I believe people will support whichever chain that doesn’t leave them impoverished. Sadly, the other guy has an unlimited money printer, 0% interest loans and blackrock. The bitcoiner had bitcoin on his side but in a fork scenario where the state wages all out war on your chain and has the legislative power and the population’s money tied in ETFs, the people will take the safe path of least resistance and that will be the state coin. The node counts won’t mean shit. Miners are also state approved entities. We are long past being able to do anything about that.

Bitcoin will continue no doubt, but in what capacity - I’m not sure. Which chain will end up bitcoin classic? That’s the big question mark. Right now I’m not feeling optimistic about what I think will be the answer to that question but sure hope it’s the not the current chain.

What I'm saying is that this is a world wide thing. America would not just be considering another block war with bitcoiners in their country, but the entire world. They would need to convince not only their citizens of switching to their chain, but a hefty majority of the world to be relevant. The nodes do matter in this case. Plus... who's going to mine a state chain when we've got a world currency that isn't having it's code changed?

If you ask me it’s very easy to convince a few other allies. Maybe even advantageous if your enemies are bitcoining too.

Hmmm, I just don't think so. The game theory playing out makes me think that America trying to fork would be disastrous for us as a country. Think of normal users getting rekt on shitcoins... now imagine that on a nation-state level.

I mean we’re adding shitcoins to reserves… it’ll be disastrous sooner or later.

Yeah, I believe they’re going to lose tremendously with this. They may have heavy bags, but heavy bags are hard to move.