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What if repeat offenders were conscripted into the military (and not paid) rather than be sent to prison?

Maybe they don’t get sent to active duty unless they agree to it. I’m sure there are plenty of other roles they could help fulfill + they have a chance at acquiring meaningful and useful skills.

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FoxByte 10mo ago

In my experience, the worst people to have in the military are the ones who don't want to be there. They often don't participate fully, and are just dead weight to carry forward. At least, that's my Air Force experience... And those are the ones that joined willingly... Most air force leadership will let people out of their 2nd term of enlistment if they don't want to be there, because its better than trying to force someone to participate.

That's my 2 cents. Perhaps the Army handles people who don't want to be there better, but I'm not sure I would want to lead a bunch of people who would rather be somewhere else. Especially when it comes to matters of national defense. I think the military would rather not have conscripts or the draft for that very reason.

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wymike 10mo ago

What if was more a case of ‘we know these people don’t want to be here but this is our alternative to prions now’ and so use the military’s experience of instilling discipline to try and reform them?

Even if it costs the same as putting them in prison do you think it could have a better outcome one for the offender?

FoxByte 10mo ago

A better outcome for them. I don't think so... They might just get shot. Push come to shove they are going to end up on the front line. I don't want someone to have my back who doesn't want to be there. Its not about discipline, its about trust... Conscripts can really harm what we call esprit de corps.

Conscripts just aren't good soldiers. History has seen many a war lost because of use of conscripts.

I think there's better things to do than prisons for sure... There is public service that can be done. I think a military-like public service could be one example of such a thing. Perhaps instead though its about cleaning up/maintaining parks or something like that instead of national defense, where the results aren't so dire...

wymike 10mo ago

I guess that’s more what I had in mind. Put them to work on things that it doesn’t matter if they mess up but have it styled like the military with the discipline etc rather than just locked in a cell or left to their own devices.