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Isn’t loving god for heaven also selfish?

Nietzche pointed out the other end of the spectrum of worship: you worship something internal. It can be a self growth. A discovery. A metamorphosis.

The traditional form of worshiping something external is a self emptying and making room for something else. “God” or nature or the universe. This is sorta the mode we have to be in to “learn” something from someone/something else.

“There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship.” -David Foster Wallace

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MAHDOOD 1mo ago

Damn I haven’t seen you on nostr in a long time lol still doing the 1 sat zaps huh 😂

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

It’s been awhile 🙂 had to do some “internal searching” back there.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

How did the search go?

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

lol good question. Lost as ever and barely holding it together.

I did find Georges Bataille and his ideas on “excess energy”, “self destruction”, and the “accursed share”. It probably explains Jesus and his “human sacrifice” and bitcoin’s “energy sacrifice”. He suggests the waste is necessary.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

If waste is necessary, then it’s not wasteful. When electricity is transferred from the grid to the hospital that is providing life support to someone , some energy will get wasted. But if it saves a life, then it wasn’t a waste.

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

Understood. Agreed. His hypothetical was like “if we only consume what we need then there would be no war (because we produce more than we need). But since there is war, then there is something interesting and universal about this act of self destruction…” it’s a pretty subtle thought.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

This is definitely beyond my pay grade but if matter cannot be created nor destroyed, then how can anything ever be wasteful? 🤷‍♂️

Wasted electricity just goes back into the universe as energy for something else right?

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

You’re speaking in terms of physics, he’s probably speaking in terms of society. I mean… nothing in physics explain why the hell the pyramids were built. Massive sacrifice of human lives, energy and materials.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

Idk if there was a massive sacrifice of human lives

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

He suggests the thing behind that is also behind the reason why we go to war. We have a need to burn off the excess.

It’s probably why you’re zapping 21 sats instead of 1 😂

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

1 sat zap is wasteful because you’re paying more in fees than actual value being sent.

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

😄 I didn’t know that. Do you not receive anything?

“Expenditure beyond necessity is the essence of sovereignty.” — Georges Bataille

Sovereignty, for Bataille, is not about control but about the freedom to waste, to sacrifice, to transcend utility.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

So you’re saying that you have little soverignty since you’re only able to waste 1 sat per zap. Meanwhile I’m able to waste 21x the amount that you can. Do better, become more sovereign🫡

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

lol no, I think you were the one telling me I am wasting most of my sats on fees, you on the other hand aren’t.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

I’m wasting more sats in total per zap

Sat Nakamoto 1mo ago

21 sat zaps are more efficient than 1 sat zaps by definition. I waste more energy.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago