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Owner of a diesel repair and performance shop we we friendly with just announced after a few years of litigation they will be bringing their case with the EPA to jury trial in the beginning of next year.

I wish them the best, very few have the courage and resources to take the federal government to court, after years of bleeding you dry and offering deals that keep you out of prison in exchange for the forfeiture of your business and accounts. That's if you're lucky. Criminal cases can start off with door kicking, arrests and asset seizure (which i've shared shared before)

Trials like this can cost shop owners millions in the long term, regardless if it's a win or a loss. In the meantime they put pressure on shops, owners and employees trying to find anything and everything they can to send you to jail. Even up to this point it cost them tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to pay their attorneys. And still under threat of escalations, seizing bank accounts (business and personal) raiding homes and businesses. That's not including the interruption of business, owners on weekly calls, spending long nights poring through paperwork, all while knowing if they make the slightest mistake they will be taken away from their families without hesitation.

The devil sat across from you in a suit and tie, smiled and asked you how the weather was.

Matt 2mo ago

Yeah a big problem is that the government has virtually unlimited resources, making the idea of due process some what laughable these days, especially with anything federal. And if the government does lose after all those resources are spent, who cares? It was taxes and money printing. The people involved lose nothing and actually got a paycheck for doing it! And if we sue the government and some how win damages, we also pay for that lol

The only solution I can come up with is a financial penalty for the officials involved in these cases. "Are you sure, because you can get sued if you're wrong?" That has some downsides, but it would probably end most of the ridiculous nonsense.

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ChipTuner 2mo ago

IDK what the answer is, but I'm sick of seeing husbands, fathers, and just overall good men going to jail or losing their livelihoods for, at worst. modifying civilian vehicles the same way the federal government does in much larger volumes.

Specifically in the worst cases (which is usually the smallest percentage of charges) removing or disabling mechanical emissions devices (deleting DPFs/SCR/EGR systems), either due to failure, lack of parts, or preventing future expensive failures, FOR THE SAME REASON every diesel powered vehicle funded by our tax dollars removes or disables them. They get paid to do it, you go to jail.

This trickles down into did you sell larger tires? Were they tested? Did you sell an unregistered intake air filter? ILLEGAL!

Matt 2mo ago

Yeah it's fucking ridiculous. I think the answer for that sort of thing is to just delete those agencies and let the free market handle it.

Matt 2mo ago

The admin state has to be completely killed I think. Pruning it probably won't help. It's simply too invasive now.

Matt 2mo ago

And so many "laws" now are really just admin state declarations and "interpretations"

ChipTuner 2mo ago

I mean we will have to do something about those freaking out about climate crisis and that everyday Americans should be jailed. There has to be some middle ground that doesn't translate into violence or imminent threat of violence from the state.

If you want to see what kind of evil is running these systems- look up Lisa Jackson, and Gina McCarthy. One of the two wroke a book published in Oxford (I can't seem to find) about cleaning house at the EPA if you weren't mission aligned and didn't have the courage to send your fellow Americans to prison for clean air. They EPA became part of the DOJ somewhere under Gina's reign iirc. That's when they got guns and access to intelligence databases to start spying on us.

ChipTuner 2mo ago

They both were EPA administrators under the Obama regimes.

Matt 2mo ago

Doesn't surprise me.