Although miners construct the blocks and receive the payout, the nodes are (/should be) more powerful. The nodes are what verify transactions so if a large percentage of nodes point to a different OS (Bitcoin Knots) or even OS version, the nodes ultimately make the decision of what chain to follow.

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The nodes can give choices, but the marketplace makes the choice which chain to follow- therefore how big a change is this to not warrant a fork?

I’ve been expecting a fork for years. Bring it. I want to dump coins for more of the legitimate MONETARY Bitcoin.

Nodes follow the consensus valid PoW chain with the most work. Policy be damned

Feels like Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Knots is playing a game of chicken to see who will fork. After that, I guess we’ll have to see which chain keeps up and/or plummets to $0.

No fork for policy changes.

Will need to look up what constitutes a policy vs a transactional rule.

This is what Maxwell had to say in full context. The point he is making is that you don't want to incentive alternative relay networks. Nodes, core or knots or otherwise, will still validate and relay valid blocks with valid transactions in them. But it hurts decentralization if you're validating mined blocks that have lots of txns that were never in your mempool.

Big miners can profit more from these alternative txn relay networks and if you push profitable use cases to these alternatives simply because the public default relay network is too restrictive, then that is far more harmful than the alternative.

Yeah, I read his post. If Bitcoin mining companies have to result to accepting bribes from spammers, then that’s a terrible business model because eventually scamming trends end and others begin. They’ll be driven out, reputation damned, and then mining hardware will be sold to cover bankruptcy costs. The way I see it, more home mining will eventually take over.

How would they be driven out if it is economically more profitable and viable?

Scams die out so it doesn’t STAY profitable. Look at NFTs on ETH; scams couldn’t even last on a scamchain.

For sure. I don't like NFTs as much as the next person, but this isn't really about NFTs. You don't design network protocols based on market sentiment. As we all know, markets will stay irrational for longer than you can stay solvent.

The nodes are the ultimate decision-makers of the protocol. The most important part. We are the knots

I don’t want to give up on Core. It’s what Satoshi gave the world. How terrible would it be to have his gift destroyed and now we need a life raft for the life raft?

Yup

Restriction on spams is necessary

I’ve been saying it since ordinals.

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That's why a blocksize limit exists.

Sounds retarded.

Yes, totally agree, except for spam nodes and underinformed nodes of course. They shouldn't have too much of a say. You need to be able to devote resources in order to have a large sway on things.

Although my method is individual choice of filters and of OP_RETURN pricing per node for their mempool policy through Knots, I suspect there is a better solution, one that aligns miners with noderunners and disregards spam. Not sure what form it would take. Perhaps we don't realize that that mechanism already exists, or that we could make use of something that's being underutilized.

Being your own miner is something. There's the transaction fees we pay to miners to mine legit stuff. There's the higher fees we make spammers pay with our filters. A large portion of miners making private payment rails might not be all bad too... they'd still be interested in finding new transactions to mine, which they would continue to source from the P2P network (as shitty and quasi-permissioned as this would be, it would never completely censor anyone unless I made a mistake in my logic). We could perhaps require arbitrary data to also burn some bitcoin into provably unspendable UTXOs, which subsidizes all bitcoin holders and thus pays economic noderunners directly.