Leatherwork is more Proof-Of-Stake than painting.
In painting everyone starts on the same ground level. On the other hand, starting with a good amount of capital to start with a good workshop, the right tools and the best materials will put you at a much greater head start than someone who is broke.
Compounding on 1 btc vs. 100 btc vs. 100,000 btc is always going to reward / punish the biggest capital allocation. That’s just math. Can’t be bitter that some people have more than us. I’d bet on barefoot mining ahead of Riot and/or Marathon and/or Hut8 … and the at home miner can outperform them all depending on their use case and source of energy.
There is no such thing as fair. Focus on return on capital. Allocation of capital is work. Mining is 100% proof of work … appreciate you are trying to be contrarian with a new take. I just 100% disagree with your qualm. It isn’t with bitcoin mining, it’s with the current distribution of capital.
But you're misunderstanding me. In no way am I claiming it is "unfair". There is no such moral statement here.
Some business ventures rely more on starting capital than others. That's it. Sure there's machines produce pure proof of work. But if we only have 2 Bitcoin miners and one of them has double the capital of the other he will NEVER reach the other one again unless he pours in more capital. That's it. I'm not insinuating it should be otherwise.
I strongly disagree. If they make enough good business moves and have enough time, they can accumulate more capital via the investment of newly accumulated capital than the larger miner.
Especially if the larger miner is destroying capital value through inefficient allocation.
That's just life. People will never be equally privileged in any system.
Also, it helps to be wealthy with Any profession. The more money you have, the easier any profession will be. Doesn't matter what it is. A wealthy painter will be just as competent as a wealthy leather worker compared to their poor counterparts.
Talent comes into play here with the arts a lot more than wealth does. Wealth allows more practice in any art.
Please don't say "it's just life, it's not equal". I have never made any moral statement saying it was bad. I don't mind being told I'm wrong and I might be but you guys keeps on attributing moral statements to me such as being "unfair". I never said that and it is irritating me.
All I am saying is that some professions benefit more from a large starting capital than others. This shouldn't be controversial at all. We might disagree on the semantic of calling it Proof-Of-Stake but it is true that some professions benefit or even require more capital than others.
Again, I am not saying this is unfair or that it should change. I am simply stating the fact of the matter.
A leatherworker who starts with a big workshop and all the best tools will obtain better results and much faster than someone working on a small table with bad tools. On the other hand, if 2 people starts painting and one does it with the best brushes on earth, the best canvas, a big house and all his time he will not immediately reach better result than someone who simply has his time and some random brushes from dollorama.
I am simply saying that the result you obtain from leathercraft is more deeply tied to you initial capital than painting is. And that is the case for many professions. All have a different level. That dosen't mean that one is less good than an other. Just that one is a better proof of work than the other.
Do you disagree with this last statement? I don't understanding how this could be controversial.
I never attributed any moral stance to what you said. I disagree that some professions benefit more than others based on the size of their starting capital. Larger starting capital is a better position no matter what the profession is.
That shop doesn't do a beginner any good. Just because, a beginner leather worker starts with a ton of stuff doesn't mean his leatherwork will be any better than the guy with less tools. You're also denigrating painting. There's a lot more to it than just paint and canvas. Maybe nostr:nprofile1qqsfkmv4ka4qzxg6f3mcrptgrmtl808d9ll63eq4zmk8sfqtyyegtagpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43z7flyz6n can chime in.
I'm not denigrating painting at all. All the contrary. I am saying it is harder than leatherwork because it is 1000% reliant on skills. Leatherwork is a lot *more* (not completely) dependent on tools (capital).
Picasso could do a Picasso with a 1$pencil.
A leatherworker cannot make a Kelly bag without 1000$ worth of tools and a costly leather.
Painting is a better proof of work because I know the amount of money you had didn't really help you much to obtain this result.
better tools are helpful but it’s entirely up to the individual to work harder.
there is always a way to accomplish your goals with what you have available to you now and i wasted many years of my life thinking lack of money was in the way of my success.
really I was just being lazy and wasting away dreaming instead of working.
lack of capital is what i could easily blame my failures on instead of the reality of not creating enough.
if I was well funded when I started would MADEX be 1000000% better.,. if I was rich now would I be able to do more ?
that’s what i guiltily think to myself.
but is it true ? i know it’s not. money only amplifies what’s already there.
it doesn’t fix anything for you on its own. it doesn’t give you talent, taste, skills, it doesn’t make your problems go away.
it’s the process of earning wealth that will grant the ability to use it productively and keep it.
everything is hard. if you want to build ferrari engines, you start by suffering at the local mechanics.
the journey is the destination.
from a quick search, starter leather working tools are the same and cheaper than starter painting sets.
if you want better tools you have to earn the right to use them and it’s the strength of our will to “find a way” that drives us around obstacles.
I couldn't agree more.
It dosen't really answer what I'm saying. I'm not talking about success.
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Hi M A D E X 🤟😉🏴☠️ Absolutely. It’s easy to get caught up in the idea that success is tied to having the perfect resources, but the real growth comes from learning to work with what you have. Money, tools, or even opportunities don’t define your potential; it’s the grit, the discipline, and the creativity to make the most of what’s in front of you that sets you apart. The journey you’re describing is exactly what shapes mastery. It’s the constant evolving, the struggle, and the persistence that lead to real progress. The tools come later, but the skill and the mindset you develop in the process that’s what truly powers success.
I understand what you're saying but I think if you gave both professions the same starting capital their advancement and their craft would be the same. Whether you start them with a million dollars or $100. Advancement in a craft has nothing to do with how much money you have. The advancement comes from proof of work, Not the starting capital.
What if it is easier for me to do a straight line when I have a 100$ tool vs a 10$ one?
I want to agree that progress is Proof-Of-Work, but sometime progress comes from using the right tools for the job. Some of my results have been greatly improved when I could finally afford a better tool.
Me having the possibility to afford this tool was 100% Proof-Of-Work. But my ability to make a straight stitching line was due to *buying* a better tool. I invested more capital. Which is great I'm not saying its not.
Where are you go from where you start is up to you. If you want a tool to be better then you make proof of work and buy one. It's the same for all professions. I just don't understand how some people would benefit from more money than others. Wouldn't everybody benefit equally from equal amount of money. Money is just a representation of energy labor and time
That's where we're not connecting.
It's not that some people benefit more from money than other. It's not the people. It's the work. Some work requires more capital than others.
Some work is easier to do when you have more money. Having more money does not make painting much easier. But Having more money make my work a lot easier.
Some work see their barriers of difficulty lowered by money a lot. Others less. For some work having more capital help you greatly to obtain better results. It's just how it is.
Yes some work is harder than other work. Not a controversial statement.
Maybe you're underestimating your own skills it takes to actually efficiently use better tools. Fancy brushes are no good if you don't know how to use them either.
Exactly. Fancy brushes don't help at all. There's no shortcut to painting.
I think you're over estimating my abilities. More people could get into leathercraft if they had the money to invest in. It's not that hard when you have the right tools.
But I'm not saying there's no Proof-Of-Work to it. Just that, when compared to something else, it is a little bit less dependent on it.
Just like mining. Assuming we live in the same neighborhood with the same electricity price, I could start mining tomorrow with basically no experience and be just as good as you. All I meed is the capital to buy the miner. Really easy.
Okay I understand. But I donn't see how that translates to the original argument?
You cannot become better at hashing. You can only buy more hash power. It's just about buying more and better tools.
But you will tell me that mining is not about hashing more It's about having a better hash/W and maybe you're right that looking at it from this angle is the right one.
But after writing this, I realize I was wrong to say that having larger capital helps you be a better miner. It's not true and not what I should e said.
What I'm really trying to say is that there is no barrier to become as good as the other miners but having the capital to buy one. Having more hashing power probably dosen't make you a 'better' miner.
There's nothing wrong or bad about being unequal or unfair. "That's just life"
The reality of living is work. The reality of living is some people are smarter or stronger or faster or wealthier than you. That's all I mean. That will never change. I'm sure we agree here.
