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I've been wrong about something and I'd like to show you what I've been wrong about. If you do not wish to see violence don't click the link I'll be posting below.

Due to recent discussions about ICE agents in Minneapolis (wearing masks, because that's somehow the worst part of the events... 🙄), I've been poking about the most infamous incident lately: the shooting of the woman driving the Honda pilot.

I broadly believed reports that the woman had hit the agent with her vehicle. If that was the case, it's clear cut self-defense.

However, on further review, this does not seem to be the case. As such, I have changed my opinion based on more facts and deem the actions of the agent to be outside the bounds of self defense and would label this as murder.

The video floating around, and that I've posted here on nostr showing a clear hit has been fairly certainly found to be a fabrication.

Below, you'll find a link to reddit. I know, I know... but it contains a video that is compiled and synced from videos that do seem to be legitimate, and they clearly show malice of forethought by the agent in question as he drew his weapon before the woman had turned her wheels to move her vehicle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q71k0w/all_angles_of_minneapolis_ice_shooting_synched/

As such, the agent broke with all known SOPs regarding firing at a "fleeing vehicle" thus, IMO, is guilty of murder, at least until I am presented evidence otherwise.

That being said, it doesn't change my opinion on:

-Agents wearing face coverings

-ICE is doing a job that is necessary as long as there are national borders and unwelcome, criminal miscreants

-Ending the welfare state will solve nearly all of these issues without the descent into martial law

-Agents of the government operating with carte blanche immunity will only be emboldened to do more of this

So, I was wrong, evidently, about this particular shooting which I will call a murder now. That's fine. (Me being wrong, not the murder.) I'm still open to discussing it and being presented with other evidence on either side. I'd even appreciate it.

The agent doesn’t have the right to even approach the woman’s car in the first place. He is not a police officer he has no authority over traffic or anything other than pursuing people who they have probable cause or a warrant for in regards to their immigration status. He started by exceeding his authority and ended by murdering a citizen.

Props for owning you earlier mistake, but please don’t think for a second that ICE running amok is an acceptable means to an end.

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Federal agents do have authority in cases where their appointed assignments are being impeded. I don't think you are correct about that.

But the rest? Yes. I'll wholeheartedly agree with you.

The video footage doesn’t support this narrative. You are in fact allowed to record federal law enforcement.

What authority does ice have to command a citizen to exit a vehicle?

Actual footage reveals the reality: psycho street larper rammed ICE with her SUV, ended unsurprisingly. 🥱

https://x.com/i/status/2009679932289626385

Nah the dude literally leans into the car like a low iq retard. Made a situation he could try to Justify shooting someone. Try less cop dick in your diet it will be better for your soul.