Graphene x Bluewallet x SeedSigner

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Airgapped.

What else do you need?

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You think your phone is more secure than a Trezor or Passport? Really?

You have completely misunderstood the setup.

SeedSigner is the airgapped signing device.

That isn’t any more secure than a regular airgapped wallet / multisig

It is though, and definitely better than using a HWW that has so much supply chain risk like your trezor.

SeedSigner uses generic non BTC related parts.

A sandboxed phone w graphene is more secure than pretty much any Linux setup a normal person will execute.

What supply chain risk? The Trezor has tamper evident packaging.

Say that again to yourself AFTER you build a seedsigner

Ancap - the graphene device substitutes your computer. The internet connected device must always also be secure. Not just the HWW.

The trezor is subject to supply chain attack. No matter what bag it comes in. All the centralized HWW's are. So, do multi vendor on your multi-sig.

I’m sorry dude but the idea that a smartphone is more secure than an airgapped hardware wallet like a Passport is the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard a bitcoiner say.

These wallets have checks that prove they were not tampered with. How do you think a supply chain attack is more likely than a security vulnerability in GrapheneOS

Dude you're being a fucking regard

The phone is in place of your computer, not a hardware wallet.

You use the hardware wallet, airgapped preferably, with an internet connected device.

That's either a computer, tablet, or phone.

You literally said your setup is better than a HWW. If you are using an airgapped wallet, then the security of the internet connected device literally does not matter.

No I didn't, I said it's better than using Linux on your computer.

Go re read the thread my guy.

Phone or Computer x Blue Wallet x SeedSigner

Airgapped = SeedSigner.

Get it now?

That’s not airgapped. If the device connects to the internet, it isn’t airgapped. Your device is broadcasting the transaction

it's air gapped on Graphene via Permissions

So how is the transaction broadcast? This is not cold storage. It is not as secure as a passport.

he would have to enable network permissions to allow it to broadcast......

I think that is his thinking process

That’s what I thought. Sure it’s more secure than my BlueWallet on iOS, but it is far less secure than my Trezor.

Apps can ignore permission settings, or use hidden permissions. Huge part of why I like have root on Android

is that proven on GrapheneOS? If so....kinda ruins their entire schtick

Idk I just know it happens on LineageOS. So far it’s only been google speech recognition, it gains mic permission even though I have it disabled in the settings. I know because a root app called bouncer (auto revokes permissions), will ask if I want to revoke the mic permission in speech recognition randomly, despite having the permission denied in settings.

Many apps have a permission called “access restricted settings” and many can read device state, meaning they can read your device ID