Replying to Avatar Guy Swann

Is it just me, or does it seem like everyone is super reluctant to monetize services and relays on #Nostr?

If we can’t make these things sustainable then we will either lose them, or they will stay nothing more than a weird little corner of the internet with lots of hope but no chance of ever scaling.

I still haven’t seen the basic model of zap sharing tried by any major client or relay. But I DO see regularly comments about how expensive relays are. I mean it might not work, but can’t we TRY it?

I want to make the distinction here too that this doesn’t mean we are closing off the network, we are adding permissions to the protocol, this doesn’t suggest at all to used closed source code, we simply need the services necessary to keep this ecosystem robust, to be profitable and have the resources to thrive. If they aren’t, then NONE of this works. Economics is everything.

I know building features is more exciting. I know we all want to make everything that we can free, and I agree all of the *code* should be shared. However, I think there is a natural insecurity (and I say this because I have this problem personally) with charging a fair price, and fearing criticism or the ire of people who believe everything should be free (as in price) when we need things to be free (as in Liberty). They are not the same, and confusing the two could stifle, or drastically slow down, the insane potential of this place.

TL;DR We have GOT to divert some energy to thinking about how to make this ecosystem sustainable, or we will lose it.

(Disclaimer: this isn’t a judgement on whoever is thinking about this problem. It just *seems* like few are. If you are building in this way please share your ideas or what you are trying. I’m extremely interested)

Agree, for Nostr to grow or make it more popular, some business models need to be explored. For Nostr, this is a relatively early stage, and many problems need to be solved through donations and sharing of basic technologies. Just like the early computer operating system, but later still need to Nostr platform can appear on the sustainable profit of the product, so as to comply with the economic law, the platform can continue to develop. Because we can't always rely on jack's donations to serve hundreds of millions of users.

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J'admire votre approche mais le modèle existe de par le côté communauté très aidant en termes d'intégration nostr et cela doit l'être pour ceux qui ont des idées et qui ne sont pas des techniques, va falloir veiller sur des valeurs éthiques pour certains ne retrouvent jamais dépouillés de leurs idées ...j'ai dû remarquer via certaines notes des défaillances de copies de créations rien du fait d'un oubli de signature et ce fut réellement