I have a sinking feeling that there is going to be a big problem with these new ETFs:

-To create additional shares of an bitcoin ETF, an authorized participant (AP) will purchase bitcoin and then exchange that bitcoin with the ETF issuer in exchange for new shares and then sell those shares on the stock market

-To delete (redeem) shares the issuer will buy shares on the market and deliver them to the ETF issue who gives them bitcoin in exchange.

Then the AP sells the bitcoin and gets cash

The APs make money by arbitraging the difference between the price of the shares and the bitcoin (or vice versa)

If they are attempting to create shares (buying bitcoin) but there is not bitcoin on the market then no shares can be created and the share price will dislocate wildly (trade above the number of bitcoin held in the ETF)

If they are deleting shares and the price has dislocated then they will be buying back bitcoin from the issue using shares that are above NAV. (meaning they are losing money buying less bitcoin back with expensive priced shares)

This works fine for stocks where there is always enough shares on the market at the clearing house.

This might not work so well when there are UTXOs that are not interested in being brought into exchanges participating with the ETF and there is a fixed and inelastic supply.

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also there is this thing know as T+2 where the APs have to wait 2 days for their cash to clear. this means that they could run out of money trying to buy and sell as NAV dislocates and new supply is not available for share creation.

I've been thinking this same thing. I don't think the suits are really ready for an absolutely scare asset that cannot be created at will. Could make for some volatile times ahead.

Stay humble, stack sats, take self custody 🤙

They might invoke a squeeze?

There will definitely be Bitcoin for sale, just maybe at a much higher price.

I guess the self-custody debate will be rocket fueled then

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They will disable the buy button like they did with GME.

Problem solved.

Even if the scale is different, doesn't the Canadian ETF prove there's not huge systemic problems so far?

Will on-chain fees be impacted by this activity?

Its a little conspiratorial but i bet in that case they would just put some paper bitcoin on the books

Solution: paper over it all and just fractionally reserve the whole thing. They own the regulators who should stop them, so F it