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I'm not sure why you think electrics are unsafe. The Teslas have repeatedly been the safest car ever tested multiple times. Here's just one example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2022/09/07/tesla-model-y-gets-highest-safety-score-ever-in-european-test/?sh=a576dd94ff31

As for self driving cars, I wouldn't trust them either. That's based on feedback from people who personally own them. But that is about immature software, not about electric versus petrol. I'd have equal distrust for self driving gasoline cars as they all seem to be even further behind.

EVs already make more sense now and that's only going to grow. The EV sales speak for themselves.

Electrics are cleaner than gasoline cars even if using 100% coal power!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikescott/2020/03/30/yes-electric-cars-are-cleaner-even-when-the-power-comes-from-coal/?sh=b2efb832320b

Most of the energy in petrol vehicles goes into making heat, not getting you where you want to go. That's why they have to consume so much extra energy in comparison to EVs.

So, I guess we can just agree to disagree. I don't think there's any test result or article I could show you to change your mind. And you haven't provided any evidence, so you're not going to change my mind. Cheers, mate.

Ike 2y ago

If you think teslas are good/quality products because forbes says so you have either never owned one or have done no work on a car yourself to compare.

EVs are practical only for city dwellers as you need a centralized infra for the virtue signalling to work. In comparison, trucks/SUVs are big enough to carry secondary fuel systems (LPG) which can double their range, or more. If you think autonomy is not a good enough reason, the green cult's magic has successfully worked on you. Coal, nuclear, etc - whatever your source of electricity, you can't carry around with you "more fuel." Some innovation. Doing repairs yourself is also important, or at least should be for self-sovereign minded folk.

"They produce heat" - an ideal by-product of ICEs for harsher climate/weather, which is most of the world. Far better than having to sacrifice autonomy/range for basic comforts/survivability.

I wouldn't mind electrical drives as a third system in a truck, though - the benefits in off-road environments, towing and similar would be appreciated. It's the "100% electrical" that's the deal breaker for functional vehicles.

LPG and CNG are the cleanest combustable fuels, if people wanted to clean up their cities they could have done it a long time ago. Selling fake green tech for made-up global problems is just a scam. And that's generous as we are not talking about the biggest issues with EVs and smart cars - the fact they will be essential in the prison-grid, dystopian wet dream of western parasites.

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Jeff Swann 2y ago

LPG & CNG are not as energy dense, the pressure required presesnts problems, & they produce lots more water vapor which IS actually a greenhouse gas. If not captured in some way every car producing like 12x the water vapor would transform cities into foggy moldy jungles.

Ike 2y ago

I doubt it could get as bad - people have been heating their homes with natural gas for quite some time.