Oh yeah. They built the tool, people can use to escape their CBDC. You're very clever.
CBDCs are nothing like #Bitcoin. They won't be decentralized, they will enslave you. But yeah, stay there and wait instead of looking for way to protect yourself.
Discussion
instead of being snippy, if you want to discuss it - that would be great.
Otherwise, I let snippy people to themselves. I ain't got the time for that.
Let's try this again in longer form, because you didn't stop to think about it the first time:
If you want to control all sides of a thing, you just imagine the other angles, and create them. So thus, you control them.
I didn't say cbdc's were like bitcoin. I said that it was a pilot study, for aspects of what would later become the CBDC. Consider it a behavioral study, both in micro and macro economics, and therein what people would do in various use cases of the financial instrument, and how they would or wouldn't respond to it, under differing stimuli and conditions, both real and created.
There are so many aspects of the bitcoin thing that cross correlate with an open and centralized banking payment system it's literally unreal, if one was to just stop and think. I don't have the time to write it up, but it's all there.
Cypherpunks were trying for decades. They had all the tech just couldn't put is all together.
Your theory is that the government waited decades too and then decided to help them?
If #Bitcoin really is government project, why Satoshi was afraid to use it for wikileaks?
And again, even if it was the work of the (I believe you mean US) government, why would they create something they can't stop? And I mean, NOT ban themselves from it, I mean to stop the attack on dollar from the other 200 countries globally. Go ahead and explain.
I mean.. if the government says you can’t own bitcoin and prevents stores from accepting it, it’s over.
Next he will say “There’s no way they can enforce that. What are they gonna do, fine the shit out of you and throw you in jail?”
Btw when I was in jail they were bringing crippled old men in for literal 10 year old parking tickets, as if they give af about your sovereignty lmao
that's exactly what they do, but first they level the playing field by letting people use it for a time, but levy so many exorbitant fines on the businesses that do adopt it, that they're making money off of the people that aren't seeing they're being lead out of business.
then after a few cullings by different laws/levies/fines/fees/etc they are almost there, and just have to do a few things to get everyone else off of the tip.
these people, contrary to popular cognitive dissonance belief patterns, are *not* stupid.
Again, even if it was the work of the (I believe you mean US) government, why would they create something they can't stop? And I mean, NOT ban themselves from it, I mean to stop the attack on dollar from the other 200 countries globally. Go ahead and explain.
This is pretty straight forward.
They simply make it illegal.
Then, they set their super computers looking for people trading in it.
Then slowly but surely, they track down TCP/IP packet headers,
and then the NSA comes in with more computers, and starts decrypting hashes, but the difference here is they have the backdoor keys to the entire internet. Most people don't know that.
The illusion that govts work seperately of eachother, is entirely a myth. They're all in one big club where they work together and cooperate behind the scenes. For the last 100 years or so, give or take.
So, it's not just the US Govt, it'd be a globally coordinated effort.
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Now explain to me how it's unstoppable, this I'm curious if you have any points that can stand without being refuted.
I'm actually a nice person, I just want more people to be aware of what's actually out there, instead of following along what seems to be the way to go, it pays (pun unintended), to be aware of various permutations of a thing. Situational Awareness.
"This is pretty straight forward" - it's NOT.
"They simply make it illegal" - sharing mp3 or movies is illegal for decades. What you mean, they will ban themselves from #Bitcoin.
"Then, they set their super computers looking for people trading in it.
Then slowly but surely, they track down TCP/IP packet headers,
and then the NSA comes in with more computers" - I'm using #Bitcoin wallets on Tor. Are you saying they'll track me down to Argentina because I bought a bread with it?
"and starts decrypting hashes" - like all the encrypted messages, they're trying to ban? Sure. Are these computers caable to see inside your head too?
"but the difference here is they have the backdoor keys to the entire internet.. Most people don't know that" - that's correct, possibly only you.
"The illusion that govts work seperately of eachother, is entirely a myth. They're all in one big club where they work together and cooperate behind the scenes. For the last 100 years or so, give or take." - I see how the US are in one club with Russia, China, etc.
"So, it's not just the US Govt, it'd be a globally coordinated effort." - western countries, not globally. Now stop for a moment and THINK, please. If the western world is THIS much afraid of the tiny open source project that they decide to ban their citizens from it, are the people free or slaves? Will you personally stay and be a slave for the rest of your life or will you try to leave ASAP?
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"Now explain to me how it's unstoppable, this I'm curious if you have any points that can stand without being refuted." - you just banned half of the population from it, became a slave and #Bitcoin is still running in the other half of the planet.
"I'm actually a nice person, I just want more people to be aware of what's actually out there, instead of following along what seems to be the way to go, it pays (pun unintended), to be aware of various permutations of a thing. Situational Awareness." - I believe you're a nice person and before I went crazy into #Bitcoin, I gave it a some years of research. Tried to break it from any angle possible and realized that monster will live. I'm aware of the price shocks (down, followed by up) that would came after scenario you just came up with. But again, this doesn't mean you can stop it.
The most important thing, they can't stop me, taking it out of the slave country when leaving with my family for a "holiday". Do you have a better option to escape dictatorship with your savings? I would love to know.
Faith in God.
He has a plan for each and every one of us.
and I trust that.
Far more than I trust trying to stack bitcoins.
Thanks for your response, it was interesting to read.
Given that we're at some kind of ideological banger here,
I'm just going to respond with the above, and leave it there.
Thank you for being mostly civil.
yeah, thats all they have to do.
https://www.dailymessenger.is/pdf/bis%20annual%20economic%20report%202022.pdf
if you read this, it's the BIS annual report from 2022, it becomes abundantly clear they do not intend on letting crypto sit around and do its thing
Sure. Ban #Bitcoin, that'll work.
I mean.. if the government says you can’t download mp3 and prevents websites from sharing them, it’s over.