On Twitter TDevD tweets Whirlpool capacity every so often. 18 hours ago he posted 8,242 BTC if you believe him. But not sure why he would lie about the capacity being less. If anything he would lie about it being more. And that is assuming most people run their own Dojo:
https://twitter.com/SamouraiDev/status/1676206203330867203?s=20
Says it's triple or quadruple that if you include Join Market and Wasabi. Join Market is probably the least beginner friendly, so assuming it is used the least.
https://mempool.space/lightning
If you consider ~80-90% of lightning is used custodially, you can probably rule out a lot of the above link.
You can even overshoot my estimation to be generous. Like I said it's rough indication, but can't be far off.
Ok it makes sense to me now. Yeah, ok so is there an anonymity set that is high enough? And I didn’t see if you responded about the fact that anyone at any time could get non-KYC and use it, so the anonymity set of both Monero and BTC is all of humanity.
Btw, I’ve got no problems with money as MoE. If I had a store I’d want to accept both (including L2s)… and probably nothing else lol.
I'm not arguing there is a specific threshold for good anon set. I think both anon sets are pretty good. All Im bringing into question is ShiShi's sure claim that Bitcoin anon set is necessarily higher than Monero when considering the facts.
The implication is all or a massive portion of Bitcoin is his anon set (a frequent claim from bitcoin maxis). You *can't* count KYC'd Bitcoin because their identities are known! The VAST majority of bitcoin is KYC'd and traceable to individual users or institutions! Also custodially kept on the CEXes themselves!
Thought expirement. Consider the following:
Crypto A:
-default transparency
-easy access from all KYC CEXes
-institutional adoption
-most well known to new inexperienced crypto users
Crypto B:
-default privacy
-delisted from most CEXes, rampant P2P KYC-free culture
-institutional taboo
-mostly on the radar of privacy minded communities and crypto vets
Based on this alone, which one would you wager has a bigger anonset?
You can achieve decent privacy/anonymity on Bitcoin if you buy non-KYC and CJ... It is just such an uphill battle and pain to do and maintain in convenience, knowledge, expense, and inferior(privacytech-wise). I've been thru the Bitcoin privacy MoE road for a long time and really don't care for doing it anymore.
I just think it makes sense to use tools for their purpose. And Bitcoin qualities make it an inferior L1 MoE (especially in the future) for many reasons, but excels as a great permissionless SoV.
Anyone can do whatever they want obviously.
Totally agree. Monero’s ease of privacy makes it the better noob MoE tool assuming its easy to get ahold of.
What is the ideal flow? Purchase non-kyc BTC + CJ, then atomic swap for monero every month?
