Replying to Avatar Crizzo

I apologize for my language and tone. If you want to have a discussion I can remain civil.

Neither of us can speak for women. The difference between my position and yours is I leave it up to them to decide while you have decided for them.

Believing that women's most important role in society is to have babies is antiquated and a symptom of a system where men hold all the power. Women in a homemaking role give up their autonomy and become reliant on the man, which opens them up to abuse. Some men are attracted to this dynamic because it gives them more leeway to take advantage of the power imbalance. This is not always the case. Sometimes this dynamic can work out great for both parties. I'm just saying it's ripe for abuse.

Society has evolved. Family is whatever a person wants it to be. To say that the nuclear family is the best and most important for society as if you are some moral authority is arrogance. Having children is not a great accomplishment, most people on the planet are capable of doing that. Likewise having children does not suddenly grant you some great wisdom and authority on the subject. I know this is going to be insulting and I'm sorry, but if your greatest accomplishment is that you creampied in a woman then I think you need to reevaluate your life.

The power dynamic between the sexes is changing. With 8 billion people on the planet procreation is not seen as such a vital thing to contribute to humanity. If women don't feel they have to have babies to contribute that gives them options for how they want to live their life, which gives them more power and men that want them to remain subservient don't like that.

Sorry I just have to address your points by each paragraph on a separate comment. The problem is your perspective. The reality is women do not give up their autonomy at all for having babies. I think most women with children will tell you the exact opposite.

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