Well just like how can you prevent someone from leaking it to another relay? Or a relay they own.
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That argument applies to any paywall on the internet today, and yet they work reasonably well in most cases.
Even super encrypted private messages can be leaked and screenshots exist, that doesn't mean we should just give up and write everything in public.
Pirated music and movies can be easily found on the internet by anyone, and yet people continue to pay for these things.
In the case of Nostr, NIP-70 together with the conscience of the reader prevent the content from being easily leaked, but nothing is guaranteed, of course.
I guess that makes sense. I kinda get the use case now.
A problem with a paywalled approach is that it artificially limits your reach to only those who already know they want to pay for your content, and this disproportionally hurts smaller/independent artists/musicians/filmmakers/etc. Paywalled systems may work well for you if you are an established artist with a large fan base, or in cases like movies where most people know they want to watch it before they pay for it. Also, most music and movies are included with streaming plans. Most artists are not well known with large followings. Publishing your content freely accessible is a better approach for most artists, as long as they are intentionally publishing it into a system that allows viewers/listeners to easily return value to them, such as on nostr with zaps. There are many examples on nostr already of artists comparing how much more they’ve already made via value-4-value zaps vs. what they’ve made using other platforms. Paywalls CAN work for some, but they don’t work for most.
It's not really like a traditional paywall. Zapbox works with any previous zaps over 3 month period, so a zapbox note can be more like a reward for the people who have supported a creator through public v4v.
I definitely agree with you that it would be tough to make that the exclusive means of disseminating one's works in most cases, but if used correctly it could create inclusivity, closer connection, and more incentive to zap public content.
Loxbox, in the other hand, serves a completely different purpose. I think "restricted" is probably appropriate language for the technical explanation but something more like "limited" might be better language user-side. The example running through my mind is that the people who like my pretty pictures aren't going to care about when my grandma's funeral is taking place, but my friends & family will. I'm more likely to also be following those people, so lockbox notes limit the immediate spread to that group. It's not like it's private information but its unnecessary, maybe uncomfortable, to tell the whole world.
Sorry to interject, but I see the potential for these to gain a lot of traction. 😅
Your interjections are welcome 🙌 It’s interesting to experiment and explore potential use cases.
🫂 thanks. I think so too. The risk of leaks & broadcasts is there but its mutual trust based, which I see as a huge step forward. Up until now, the follow list has had basically 2 functions. Now it has 3.