This is going to be huge for cats, obligate carnivores—who depend entirely on meat for survival. Lab-grown means fewer animals raised for slaughter and less farmland needed to feed them.
Bone appétit! Dog treats from lab-grown meat are hitting the U.K. market
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/nx-s1-5288784/uk-dog-treats-lab-grown-meat-carbon-emissions
#IKITAO #GoVegan
Nature is efficient. Ridiculously efficient. Let's follow this up in a year or two and see how much farmland and water is required for mindless meat.
Lab-grown meat and cloning are not the same thing. Lab-grown meat is developed from animal cells that are cultured or grown in a lab and produces real meat without raising or slaughtering animals.
Factory farming already has a massive land footprint. Lab-grown meat and transitioning to a plant-based diet will significantly reduce it.
• Half of Earth's habitable land is used for agriculture
• Of all agricultural land:
> 77% is used for livestock (grazing and animal feed)
> Yet this produces only 18% of global calories and 37% of protein
• 74% of land livestock are raised in factory farms
• Over 90% of farmed animals globally live in factory farms
The inefficiency is striking—we're using most of our agricultural land to produce a relatively small portion of our food. What we're seeing is that shifting to plant-based agriculture could reduce global agricultural land use by 75% while still feeding the world's population. "In general, it takes around 100 times more land to produce animal-based meats than it does to produce plant-based alternatives."
Sources:
https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture
https://pbfinstitute.org/industrial-animal-agricultures-large-footprint-on-global-land/
https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-animals-are-factory-farmed
https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/global-animal-farming-estimates
Plant based diets kill way more animals than just eating them; every cute little rodent, every bird, rabbits etc. slaughtered by the thousands to protect your soy plantations for make unhealthy fake meat
I appreciate your concern about animal welfare. However, there are a few important points to consider:
1. Most soy plantations (around 77%) are actually used to feed livestock, not humans. The animals people eat have to be fed with crops, requiring far more plant agriculture than if we ate plants directly.
2. Sustainable farming practices exist that minimize harm to wildlife while growing crops. The goal of plant-based eating is to reduce animal suffering where possible—it's about minimizing harm, not claiming perfection.
3. There's a clear ethical distinction between:
- Unintentional wildlife impacts from any type of agriculture
- Deliberately breeding and slaughtering billions of sentient beings annually
4. If you're concerned about crop-related wildlife deaths, you should actually support plant-based diets since they require significantly less cropland overall compared to animal agriculture.
The key is to focus on reducing harm where we can. While no diet is completely free from impact, choosing plant-based options typically results in less land use, fewer resources consumed, and less intentional animal suffering.
Regarding plant sentience—while plants have remarkable communication abilities through chemical signals, electrical impulses, and underground fungal networks, they fundamentally lack the biological structures necessary for experiencing suffering: no pain receptors, no nervous system, and no brain to process pain or emotions.
Consider this: 77% of global farmland is used for livestock and their feed crops. If everyone switched to plant-based diets, we'd dramatically reduce total plant and animal deaths, as livestock consumes enough crops to feed billions of people.
The math is unambiguous—plant-based diets require up to 80% less agricultural land, produce five times fewer animal deaths, and cut environmental impact in half. This isn't about claiming perfection; it's about acknowledging the clear scientific evidence that shows which choices cause the least harm to both plants and animals.
Cows, sheep, and goats can be raised without crops. In addition, chickens can be fed using ugly food and distillers/brewers grains, so you're way off. Hogs are the only animals that need crops and even that isn't true if you want to work hard.
More animals die when harvesting crops vs the one cow that can feed me every year. The only time that isn't true is if the harvest is lucky and only kills 10 mice, birds or voles and my guard dogs are lucky and get more coons an opossums, but that hardly counts.
Why is you unintentionally killing dozens of animals to harvest your food more ethical than me intentionally killing half that after I gave them the best life (protected from predation and gave best food they could imagine)?
Your point about 80% less ag land is just plain false and negates to account for function stacking animlas and other farm products. And also animals can be raised on land that cannot be cropped.
This is the biggest straw man y'all always setup, you put industrial animal agriculture against the best version of plant farming. How about you compare apples to apples?
is lab grown meat actually available for human consumption yet ?I also dont think the transhumans will mind eating it and new generations wont know the difference the same as they cant drive a manual car etc??
As far as I know, lab-grown meat is currently available for humans but very limited—only at select restaurants in Singapore and a few high-end spots in the US. Interesting that the UK is actually the first in Europe to approve lab-grown meat, though currently only for pet food, with Meatly's dog treats now hitting store shelves.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/nx-s1-5288784/uk-dog-treats-lab-grown-meat-carbon-emissions
Ha ha go carnivore moooh
Mmm Bill Gates meat.
This is a calculator for cost of lab-grown meat given a variety of inputs. It was created several years ago at a world-class research university. I would truly appreciate your feedback on the accuracy and model assumptions.
I’m 100% against lab grown meat. Disgusting. They’re trying to normalize it so we accept it. No fuckin thanks
