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As would I. They were closer to God than we are. Less distractions. More reflection. But that still doesn’t stop my skepticism about men writing a book that had the power to start war, cause “holy men” to turn on the “unholy”. Perhaps sieze land, seize wives? Idk.. all I know is the Bible wields power in a way that a loving god would disagree with IMO, as we see from what’s literally happening at this moment. Again. I KNOW NOTHING

mleku 2y ago

holy men don't write books promoting war.

the whole "promised land" story was probably a propaganda campaign.

the entire pentateuch, the first 5 books of the bible, were written BEFORE the jews existed. I believe that it was in fact the phonecians' scripture, and idk if you know about the phonecians but they were basically pirates. liars, thieves and rapists of various colours and shapes.

anyhow, that's something of a controversial view, since it is foundational for both judaism and christianity. the book of enoch goes into quite some detail about several things that appear in these 5 books that are essential and core, and they disagree on several points, and one of them being this zionist chosen people horseshit.

i read a good article some time back that discusses the subject of the way that history turns into legend turns into myth, and it speculated exactly that, that the promised land story was precisely a propaganda campaign to rally the tribes to invade neighbours land.

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WasBuddhaMaybe 2y ago

Interesting. I don’t know about any of that. I went to catholic school for 12 years, that’s the basis of my “knowledge” or lack there of

mleku 2y ago

i highly recommend reading "the book of enoch" if you want to have your head cracked open about the real roots of the abrahamic faiths.

angels are humans too.

there is even remnants of this information, read the later chapters of Revelation, the angel admonishes John not to worship him "we are the same".

in enoch, the angel in charge of dealing with the great flood also expresses regret at not being more careful with who got on the boat with Noah.

the shining angels are humans with advanced knowledge and tech, and some of them use it for evil. just spoiling it for you, but still, go read it. it's not that hard a read except for the big long parable section which is a bit funny.

WasBuddhaMaybe 2y ago

I’ll read it for sure. Thanks!

Lauren of Light ☀️ 2y ago

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the book of Enoch 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🤍🔥👌🏻