I don't know what that means. Direct experience is all I refer to, friend. It's no heresy because it's not thought, its not words. It can't be described. It's just living in the moment before thought and ego arises. Its phenomenology. Like being a new born. Deny it all you like. Give it a name so you may fear it. God isn't in the words, he is the word. The only word that creates. All other words are a misrepresentation. Good luck.
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Right--that's gnosticism. I didn't name it, it's been around for millennia...actually, since the very beginning. The temptation to judge for oneself based on direct experience and attain "higher knowledge"--that's exactly how the Serpent deceived Eve. What you've described is the exact opposite of Christianity--which is what my post was about. Which is fine. But let's not confuse the two.
I consider the lillies. Call it what you like.
Alright -- but none of these names are original to me. What you've described goes by many other names, too--the "perennial philosophy," the Orphic philosophy, or (most popularly recently), Theosophy. The Thesophists, by the way, led by Helena Blavatsky, are working out this ideology through the U.N. If this is your creed, shouldn't you at least know what it's called? Then you could join with others who are like-minded, study it more deeply, work it out to its logical conclusions. etc.
https://newdiscourses.com/2024/06/the-global-pagan-theocracy-united-nations/
I say this earnestly: consider the Lilies, yes--but consider even more so their Creator and ours. Read [the gospel of John](https://esv.org/John+1). 🤙
Nah. There's nothing to learn. There are no logical conclusions. Knowledge is revealed in the experience. It can't be described. You can't tell anyone what the apple tastes like. You must bite it.
Nobody studied their way to enlightenment, friend. It's not needed. Indeed, it's detrimental to the process. Your mind and words and relations and differentiations will only reveal your capacity to blind yourself from the living truth.
There is no creed, there is no differentiation, there are no books and no paths to it. At the end of the road it comes to no-self and the realisation of not ever having existed, but being eternal in nature being the universe observing itself. It being as obvious as a slap in the face but always at the edges of the ego's perception. It's not spirituality because it has no name. It's not in relation to anything. And when you wake up and read the words of Jesus you realise you never knew what he meant until now. There is oneness and god is it all. All you have to do is stop thought and you will see it too.
You're literally working too hard.
I cannot express to how sad I am that you actually believe that rot. Jesus walked on this earth and told us the exact opposite of this Satanic, gnostic garbage.
I hope you find peace.
Dude...that's a creed.
No, it's a thought. A lack of a thought cannot be belief. Belief gets in the way of direct experience. No thought. No words. Direct experience of no self.
Direct experience.
Right now.
Nothing else.
Look at your finger. Wiggle it. Who's wiggling it? That. God is right there. It. Can't. Be. Described.
This isn't a negotiation.
...interesting choice of illustration--bite the fruit to know for yourself. I mean, dude, you're basically quoting the Serpent in [Genesis 3:1](https://esv.org/Gen+3.1).
Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father except through me." ([John 14:6](https://esv.org/John+14.6)). Jesus, the man, the Son of God incarnate, *is* the Living Truth. Which is to say: Truth is a person. It is not some mute, impersonal law or fact that exists "above all religions."
Our Creator has spoken to us clearly in creation, in conscience, through his Son, and (most clearly) in Scripture. He has told us what is true, and the way we should go. He has told us the Truth--it's this, "thus saith the Lord, " -- or, hiss with the Serpent, "did God *really* say that?"
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Obviously we have some deep differences here. But, that aside, we can agree that nostr and bitcoin are good things to be fought for--and that freedom of conscience, speech, and worship--no matter how deep our disagreements--are worthy principles to fight for. In these causes I am happy to be co-belligerent.
There's no difference between us. I'm not sharing opinions. I'm not holding a belief. I'm telling you you're right. Like I said. I hope you find peace. You won't find it in quotes. If truth is the man, it can only be found in his life, not his words. The words can only point the way.
