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Kayne

Nobody who says to bulk is selling you crap.

Its literally eat pasta eat bread eat eat eat as much cheap carbs as you can.

It's the protein drinks and foods to eat when cutting that are being marketed to people.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

They’re profiting off your attention. And the bad advice keeps them running in circles for answers.

Let me illustrate with the most braindead example.

Let’s say you had the best full body workout ever. It was so good that it will get you 1 additional pound of muscle as long as you consume your baseline calories. And let’s say that number is 3k calories. So 1 pound of muscle is guaranteed as long as you eat 3k calories. Assume the ratios of protein to fat are perfect.

If you eat 6k calories instead of 3k, you will not gain 2 pounds of muscle. And if you 9k calories instead of 3k, you won’t get 3 pounds of muscle. You will still gain 1 pound of muscle plus extra fat. The amount of muscle your body can add is based on genetics. Unless you’re on fucking steroids, you’re not growing more muscle by eating like a fat ass.

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BottleTeams 5mo ago

You're thinking just in terms of proteins and fat. Your body needs the excess carbs (literally from anywhere, soda or cheeseburgers) to fuel ATP production in order to be able to fuel / repair the muscles. If you do not have the excess carbs you will not product ATP and you will not repair and build the muscle.

Again this is your straw man tactic trying to say "in your logic 5000 calories is better than 2000 calories" which has never been the argument. This is just a feeble attempt to "win" instead of learn.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

If you don’t have the carbs as fuel then your body will convert fat into fuel to do that process. That’s what I was trying to say about converting fat into muscle.

I’m not strawmanning I think you’re moving the goalposts. You said mass gainers work. When I was on mass gainers I was easily getting over 5 calories. So I should be growing more muscle then right? Okay so if I push it to 6k calories, more muscle right? Or is there a threshold where you no longer see muscle gain and it’s all just fat? Make it make sense