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It's actually sort of amazing how cheaply you can live, in Germany, so long as you avoid cities and negotiate good utilities contracts.

I mean, in comparison to income.
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Eluc 1y ago

Same in Switzerland, as long as you: don't live in or near large cities, or nowhere near the French or Italian speaking areas, or not in higher tax Kantons and you never do activities in Switzerland itself but travel abroad to spend less on holiday and even groceries.

Easy!

Beside that I full agree on negociating everything, 2-3 times per years you have deal on mobile subscription and fixed internet that are at least 50% below normal prices and if you ask to quit, you often get a call for a deal to convince you to stay, which you can also negociate (hundred if not thousand of saving per year), you can also negociate non-mandatory insurances.

If you heat with a gas tank you can also fill it up when it's cheaper.

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Laeserin 1y ago

Our next home has a big oil tank, a wood-burning stove with a cooktop, and passive solar (hot water), but it's harder to heat in the winter, so our costs will stay about the same.

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Sandor Clegane 1y ago

If you have a wood burner you can get a heater jacket for when the solar isn't heating that water enough.

As for heating yourself, the trick is exactly that, heat yourself not the building.

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Sandor Clegane 1y ago

And if you have the space, you can coppice for your own firewood.