Have a read through the details of the Tornado cash situation. What you describe is basically that, yet they still went gunning for the creator.
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Were users of Tornado Cash running their own nodes / servers? I’m honestly not sure, but seems unlikely
Interesting question
Not that I know of, no.
Interesting to see how they treat this when we read the minutes.
I care more about the node situation than any sentencing in this case.
Thanks. I’m still not clear - were the Tornado Cash devs operating a central server? Or was every Etherium node performing that function?
This is the thing that I don't understand about ethereum & smart contracts.
The contracts are supposed to be immutable, but there are operations that clearly aren't if tornado cash isn't operational.
Yeah that seems… broken. My rudimentary understanding was that “smart contracts” were executed by each node. But the whole system is so convoluted it’s hard to determine where the real dependencies are.
If you’re saying the Tornado Cash “smart contract” stopped executing after the devs were arrested, that’s a pretty good indicator that there was some centralized server dependency.
It’s sad and unjust, but not unexpected.
I looked around and someone forked the code and is updating it. Perhaps they are using it on tor?
But it says this
"List of rpc & relayers for withdrawal
Refer https://chainlist.org for a full list of available public RPC URLs.
Note that most of the RPC would censor sanctionded pool contracts.
So either you can use the default RPC or find yourself a suitable one."
Yes, it doesn't mean the court ruling will be upheld last forever.
But it's painfully obvious you need to be anonymous if you're creating these tools.
These people wanted to get rich.
Why else would they be public and take VC money?
& this is a good question ⁉️
Another item in question was he sanctioned as an illegal MTB?
I don't think so right?
Only as conspiring to launder money?
ML and sanction violations I believe.
I believe one of the indictments in the Tornado Cash case did have to do with MTB. The defense recently filed a motion to dismiss based on the fact that tornado cash had no “control” of user funds and the US DOJ’s response was that “control” is not required to be a MTB
Makes sense, users don't run their own nodes in ethereum.
I wonder how that shit worked if not with a centralized node like Samourai operated.
Sounds pretty centralized.
The common denominator is that someone was profiting off the mixing and therefore had culpability
Two common denominators:
Running a server/node which users could use on their behalf + profiting.
They also claim that MTs have a responsibility to put in place AML curtails - which obv weren't there & the RZN wasabi did it preemptively, bc it's the law unfortunately.
You just can't be labeled as an MT.
So yeah profiting is already a shot in the head.