Most people are inevitably going to be on custodial solutions anyway. I’m just asking for a simpler onboarding experience. I have Phoenix wallet and that feels much easier to use.
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Hear you loud and clear. We’re working on it.
Appreciate all the feedback.
I appreciate you not taking this an attack. I do love what Zeus stands for. I’ve had the app downloaded for like 3 years now. Listened to you guys more than once on the citadel dispatch. Every time I do, I reopen the app to try and use it but every time I open the app and try to set up the wallet, I’m just like wtf is all this info it’s overwhelming. Where do I even start? So I close the app and say I’ll come back to it later because it’s early and the UX should improve. But coming back to it years later still feels the same. Today I finally bit the bullet and just did what you said. It doesn’t feel great to pay all those fees without knowing that the channels will eventually expire. I don’t envy the UX work that you guys need to do but it feels like you just have to burn sats to learn or you have to have prior experience running a lightning node. I like the idea of making the current UX a more advanced option and adding a beginner friendly option that handholds you through the process. I highly recommend that book. I think improving UX can massively grow your user base.
Cheers. Thank you.
Tradeoffs. I prefer lightning over liquid. I’m dipping my toes in ecash, there’s a learning curve for sure. I think of L1 as my savings, L2 as my checking. Self hosted holds most of L2 and custodial gets a “per diem” spend that is okay if rugged.
Right now I prefer liquid. The custodial risk is small but trading with it is super cheap and intuitive. No need to manage channels or pay unexpected fees. When your liquid balance is large enough you can pay the fee to send it on chain.
Breez is similar to Phoenix, but better: phoenix devs knows who you are paying (because of their routing mechanism), Breez devs don't