njump.me became beautiful. nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 why not share via njump?
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We 😍 njump.
#[4] hates it, tho. Don't mention it around him. 😂
Hate is probably not the right emotion 🙂. He’s mostly very nice.
Well, he says it's centralized bullshit, but I want to host an instance of it. I think it's brilliant. And so pretty! 🤩
I always link to njump, if I can. Then people can just look at it there and decide if the want to jump into a websocket client from there.
You could use it to read eBooks and Wiki pages.
And you can use it to see something in Nostr while using the German Internet speed. 😂
Any clients that have a "share" via njump, perhaps a setting can be used to supply the specific instance of njump you want to use.
+1 for sure. But assume we now make a standard for HTML clients? Where do we discover URLs and so on?
I was hoping you would tell us where. 🤭
lol. I suppose we could do it like other client's have been using nip05 and nip89 to store cache urls and CORS proxy stuff? User's can set urls they want to us?
But I suppose this is only shorthand for users wanting to share links, not for user's grazing the public internet. When I share links I try to use embed links so we don't have hardcoded urls everywhere. We can't really avoid that though.
We just got our own WikiNostr instance, too! 🤩
What do you think? nostr:nevent1qqstsw2e6w84yswqpwr8w0dn2wg7uhqefr7fum4gkzw98qt6xfks70gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcpzdmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82c30w0acte
I’m not interested in open graph and consorts. I don’t think the embedding-tweets case is interesting enough. My main use-case is quoting in a matter which is as decay-proof as linking to Wikipedia or to the Web Archive, preferrably even better. Like referencing books, but with easy access to the library, where the relay is to be named for retrieval of the note.
Do you know how conventional physical libraries handle this? There are catalogues, interchange and archives. Censorship is difficult once the book has been printed.
Same with film infrastructure. One cinema will for sure play the film. It’s just not easy to access for everyone, whereas nostr should provide exactly this.
It's better if there are alternatives. Damus Notecrumbs is good, just needs some more time to get pretty good.
There has been no attention on the notecrumb project since January 2024.
Is there a NIP which would allow relays to expose notes via HTTP/HTML? This would give you the alternatives.
No, that's would be an attack on Nostr.
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Ok, I see. Bad idea. Because centralist power comes with the nice GUI. Everybody would need to post to this relay because people would want to look it up there. I guess this is also how the “canonical relay” died.
But, counter-example:
I think the Web Archive is a great undertaking. It keeps what is otherwise lost and inaccessible for me. The centralist approach worked well to keep the old decentralized web (not the platform/JS web) available over decades (even though there is censorship; you can request deletion of entries).
But from your viewpoint it’s one single point of failure. What do you make of that? What keeps nostr infrastructure as decentralized as possible but its notes still quotable by Wikipedia? Wikipedia has an answer for geo coordinates for example: a list of apps for representation.
But maybe I’m very wrong. Maybe what we need is a nostr browser?
- Google is filter
- domain with path is note
and instead of hopping servers with hyperlinks we’re hopping relays/servers respective to the npub. And some centralised party will come and archive it all.
Im thinking of something related in microapp sense, but not exactly what you’re describing
Ok. That’s ambitious! 🫡
I initially thought so but its kind of how I’m building microapps within damus notedeck already, just need to figure out the drawing apis and a way to load these apps dynamically (wasm, etc)
Feels like I’m heading toward there 🤔 i think this basically ends up recreating the web with a different set of apis, so maybe there is an opportunity to do something simpler with a more direct rendering interface.
Did tou look into other trials, gopher or so?
njump.me is awesome .. promise me it won't become google.com :-)
Do you know what I can do to make my current preview "profile" show up on njump.me and not an old version of it?