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I see constant talk about how Bitcoin is the way of the future, how it's the answer, the solution to the corrupt and mismanaged fiat system, a revolution, a way to put the power back in the hands of the people, digital capital, how it has so much utility, how it is the perfect money...

But I never

ever

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see anyone talking about how we'll actually value it in a future where it has achieved the goal that everyone idolizes. Why? Why does it feel like there's no true long-term plan?

Lots of people say "don't value your Bitcoin in fiat", but they just stop there. They don't even bother with trying to extend that thought. I feel like this is a mistake to not take it further.

Imagine a future where Bitcoin has become our new primary store of value and we no longer value Bitcoin in fiat. How will we value it at that point? What will one BTC be representative of?

How will we determine this new system of value? How will we arrive at a consensus for it? Will this somehow naturally and organically grow out of the decentralized nature as the system becomes more and more widespread and adopted and used, similar to the dynamics involved in the emergence of the first currencies? Or will there need to be some form of committee formed to make a decision about how we value BTC? Will governments play a role in this?

All the talk of "0.1 BTC is all you need" and "whole coiners" is all purely based on fiat, and doesn't address anything about the long term future of Bitcoin.

I was wondering if people can tell me if any thought is actually being put towards this. I'd like to read about any progress towards this, or about thought experiments for it, or see videos or listen to podcasts that discuss it. So any kind of recommendation of reading materials or other information would be greatly welcome.

Memes and pithy hype quotes aren't going to do shit for us. If this truly is a revolution, we need plans, and we need to ask the hard questions and deal with the tough discussions and start to think about the goal we all dream of actually being realized. Memes and parroting "stack sats" are the lowest of the low hanging fruit.

#Bitcoin

The measure you’re looking for is #time.

One needs to do work to buy time alive. This productive time is represented with money.

The money you save is productive time of other people you buy with your own productive time saved in and represented by money again.

The best money to do this is #bitcoin.

The catch: when we use time to price Bitcoin we need proxies, starting with cost of living.

As a result we need to approximate cost of living, which is a problem for at least two reasons:

1) COL is currently priced in fiat. So we need to translate into fiat first and then into Bitcoin. Meaning many moving parts introducing variance.

2) COL varies significantly across and within societies. Plus, it’s usually a monthly or yearly measure, not a lifetime measure. Which actually introduces a third problem:

3) we need to build a lot of assumptions and means/medians on things like life expectancy, productive time (how much do people actually work in their lifetime and how to define work?), productivity etc. Additionally we try to sum up a lifetime dynamic in a single number. Problematic.

If 0.1 BTC is life changing or not will always depend on where you are globally and in life regardless of how much bitcoin adoption took place.

So… it’s complicated but will manage itself.

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This makes a lot of sense to me. Definitely complicated with a lot of moving parts. I just hope I get to live long enough to see it play out.

I think we will. I surely hope we will.