Man this is getting so weird. Do we even know what we're talking about anymore?

I had originally said that having a self-sustaining farm is more work than "just put seeds in the ground and let my god do the rest for you". Anyone who has grown food before at any scale will agree that there is time and work involved and the larger the scale (including just family), the more work.

That was one point.

Then you started telling me that only weak people don't decide to spend their valuable time and skills in this way. I tried to make the point that specialization and division of labor is a net good for society, as it allows for societal progress in a free market (take that to be at whatever level of scale you want, from "single family" to "entire region"). I think it was around this point that you started to tell me I'm delusional.

So what are we actually arguing here? That each individual should grown all their own calories (are children included here)? That each family should? That each neighborhood should? That each town should? City? Where do you draw the line and allow people to start to trade the economic goods they create (including food) and enable higher-order goods to be generated beyond mere subsistence?

Or are you trying to make a different point altogether? Maybe try without the insults so we can figure out where we disagree, if anywhere.