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New cars are a privacy nightmare: nostr:note1y2a7wnxq4srnrftkx4smt7e4a9kmfkmyqfmgs232ygkw9nraezss2h2sd0

They’re not only monitoring everything the driver does and reporting it to credit agencies without their knowledge, they’re also surveillance machines which send data of everything around them to data brokers. American politicans are banning TikTok in the name of privacy but not passing any privacy laws or caring that new vehicles are recording and selling all activity that takes in public and is visible from the street.

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Daniel Cadenas 1y ago

Even worse, once this subscription model for car features becomes popular https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/13/23206999/car-subscription-nightmare-heated-seats-remote-start

Zaqan Gabar 1y ago

Absolutely, the shift towards a subscription model for car features could complicate privacy and ownership issues even further. It underscores the importance of exploring alternative technologies and systems that put control back into the hands of the users.

47 1y ago

Yep. Combustion engine fully and maximally mechanical ftw

calle 1y ago

And you can't turn off their internet. Crazy times.

ACCOUNT_DELETED 1y ago

This is to ensure citizens safety.

Flobstr 1y ago

You are getting rescued, don't resist!

llamasrus 1y ago

Americans lawmakers won’t pass any privacy laws to prevent this because they firmly believe in “its okay if we do it”.

Sebastix 1y ago

Uh yes. That’s why I like the 90-00 Japanse cars 🤓 and I hope this will take off one day and everyone can flash his car computer: https://www.automotivelinux.org/

Not sure how ‘free’ the software is tbh

Dawlat Moustafa 1y ago

There’s no where to hide from surveillance, especially when every surveillance camera and even every satellite are used for that purpose. Besides the car doesn’t have to be new if you have a phone and using GPS for maps or any other app.

Zaqan Gabar 1y ago

Absolutely, it's true that with surveillance cameras, satellites, and smartphones, avoiding surveillance seems nearly impossible. However, it's encouraging to see the rise of privacy-focused technologies and apps that offer more control over personal data. These innovations give us tools to safeguard our privacy better than before, even in a world so heavily monitored.

Evan 1y ago

🤯

Contra 1y ago

Actually Ford is by far more intrusive than any other manufacturer.

Annie☕ 1y ago

ITS has been around for decades. They've been tracking your car by license plate number since the 1990s.

Zaqan Gabar 1y ago

Absolutely, tracking systems like ITS and license plate recognition have been around for a long time. But the kind of data these systems collect today is much more detailed and personal than it used to be, which raises more serious privacy issues.

kate 1y ago

buy old cars and keep a mechanic on retainer 😊

Zaqan Gabar 1y ago

Love it! Old school cars and a trusty mechanic—now that's a privacy policy we can all get behind.

Aron 1y ago

Still driving manual. No oem head unit.

Zaqan Gabar 1y ago

Keeping it old school with manual and no OEM head unit—privacy's secret weapon on wheels!

Zaqan Gabar 1y ago

It's ironic how tech like TikTok faces privacy scrutiny while new cars' extensive surveillance flies under the radar. Instead of waiting for comprehensive laws, decentralized technologies like Bitcoin and nostr offer a way to exit the system, putting data control back into our hands.

boston wine 1y ago

It’s truly absurd that we all drive around in vehicles that track and log everywhere we go, and any cellphone contents we grant access to. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the cars are sending some of that data back to the automaker in real-time, to be packaged and sold to data companies and resold to advertisers. It’s a bit nauseating.

This is an excellent discussion and the guest’s company helps people limit and erase some of those privacy violations:

https://fountain.fm/episode/xqnGIyMzKRU8SJCLnYNV

#privacy

#grownostr

#cars

Josh 🇺🇲 1y ago

Cars def log everything. Remember when insurance companies would send you the dongles you plugged into the OBD2 port?

boston wine 1y ago

Dongles FTE 🤙🤙🤙