they are poisoning the meat now too, from GMO corn feed to meat glues and adding soy to the meat. it's so bad here in europe you can hardly find anything that isn't contaminated with GMO soy or corn. and i'm allergic to the shit.
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also i would never return to veganism. i plan to have my own herd of sheep and flock of chickens and feed them only on legit natural food for the species, and learn how to use all of the bits from them the best way, eg, rennet for yogurts and cheese, the intestines for sausages, use all of the organs, lung, liver, kidneys. i want cats so they have to eat this, the whole vegan bullshit, sorry, you wanna be vegan you can't have cats or dogs baby. just rats and quails for you. feeding cats vegetable protein is poisoning them.
Well the cat doesn't have to be vegan just because I try to be... But yes, we are poisoning our cats and dogs by feeding them canned food, which is mostly plant based.
I found veganism to be doable, but I wasn't doing it in the US. Here (in US), all food contains poisons. All of it, no exceptions, I don't care what the label says. My body tells me the truth. I only tried being vegan for 8 months, and it wasn't a great way to live, but it was doable. If its doable, then ethical considerations can be... considered. Maybe just don't go "full vegan" with their retarded prohibition on eggs and honey. There's ethical merit to being healthy, too.
veganism is literally a cult mind control psyop to get people to buy the goddamn poisoned GMO plant material, if you didn't realise that then i'm telling you, the whole thing is cooked up to sell grain to feed to us that will make us sick.
note that the seventh day adventist church pioneered this, based on a ridiculous interpretation of the book of daniel. but the reality was that the co-founder of the church was none other than the kellogs corn flakes guy. and he also promoted circumcision and that also became routine all across the USA in the last 80 years for no reason and the DNA of these poor boys flesh is used in all kinds of medical products now, which is utterly disgusting. cannibalism if you ask me.
if someone tells you it's more "moral" to eat food that makes you weak and stupid, they are trying to enslave you. the end.
All worth considering, and good to know. And my health is my main ethical concern, so it won. I wasn't a Christian when I tried veganism, and hadn't given the bible any real critical thought yet, so that played no part in my reasoning.
Have you seen how livestock are actually raised? Not the nice farm pictures, with the happy cows and happy grass - that is small and inconsequential, and so is mostly an unrealistic idea. The reality is horrible - crowded and unsanitary animal factories. Their whole lives are suffering. Its not just suffering at death... Find video of it, it's appalling.
I do think eating meat is generally healthier than eating plants, and that's my primary concern. Look at how rich people eat, or how medieval knights ate - they eat/ate meat, and let the slaves eat the plants. I see myself as a warrior, not a slave, so I deserve the meat. On the other hand, would I stop and do something to help an animal that's suffering, if I found one randomly suffering? Yes. So extend that... I don't want to eat animals whose whole lives were suffering. But like I said, I'm in the US, and I'm not rich, so my first concern is my health, which means veganism is not an option.
yes, industrial feedlot farming and they also on top of that feed them almost exclusively on GMO grains.
it's not even only just about how unnatural and unpleasant it is for the animals, not eating grass changes their meat in ways that makes it less good for you, or even allergenic. i can't eat the eggs produced on this island because they are mostly fed on GMO corn and it gives me a severe allergic reaction after a few days of 4 eggs a day.
the thing is, this style of farming is NOT any more efficient. it just funnels money to the big agricultural biotech companies. feed your sheep and cattle on grass and they are cut out of the deal.
none of it is necessary, regenerative herding is better for the land as well as producing a better product and less unnatural and cruel to the animals.
one of the most insulting things about the whole vegan meme is the idea that all farmers are cruel psychopaths. no, actually, they are not, but the big scale ones kinda are, and they are really just captured serfs serving the big agra oligarchy, and those are the customers, not us, we are parrt of the product. as in, making us sick is part of the plan.
100%, all of it.
And I think big ag makes a strong case against "democracy." The corruption is so obvious... And we're not able to stop it. Democracy is mostly a psyop. We've traded occasionally psychopathic kings for eternally psychopathic oligarchs. There's no 'good' state - only degrees of bad. I think we traded bad for worse.
Damn, they already got Europe... I thought with their strict laws on agriculture they'd last a little longer. The soy shit is pushed by big ag in the US, and that lobby has huge influence over our state department, which pushes soy exports on other countries while the politicians make a public beef. That's the basic play... Make a public confrontation, force the little country to back down, and force export deals on them, which aren't publicized, so Americans mostly have no idea it goes on.
as far as i know, ever since mad cow disease the agriculture of europe has been in decline. the only way to really eat healthy now is to farm or deal direct with farmers.
it's so mad it makes me mad about being stuck here on this island without any way to raise my own. hell, just a nice big chicken coop would do, and grow a bunch of stuff that chickens eat and that attract bugs and voila, eggs and meat, most of the year, and if kept cool, and unwashed, chicken eggs can last about 6 months. so if you produce enough you can just dole them out to neighbours as well in exchange for stuff. the difficult part for me is getting the space to do it. i probably could do it here, but i don't really feel up to negotiating with the landlord about it. he'd have to stop damn well poisoning the plants all around my place for a start. i'd need to go out there, and plant suitable chickenfeed plants and harvest them up and throw into the enclosure.
but i am currently unemployed and no idea when i'm gonna get that sorted out, so >_< i hate this bankster world
Ditto.. I hate this bankster world.