When noobs wants to change #Bitcoin , there’s a process they have to go through. Bitching and moaning is not it.

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You mean making loud noises doesn't work?!? 🤣🤣🤣

either bitcoin will change and integrate privacy and fungibility

or monero will take over

bitcoin cannot be used for payments. lightning is not secure

Huh?

Monero is centralized garbage and can’t scale. Shut the fuck up

It blows my mind when people talk about privacy / not secure and mention LN/bitty lol.

Like sure, it can be very not private/secure(custodians)

But it can be very private, coinjoins/whirlpool/tor nodes&channels/deep multiple cold storages.

lightning=very insecure, only experimental and not recommended for larger amounts by lightning itself. lightning is only an additional centralized layer on top of the bitcoin layer:

https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2020/10/27/4-bitcoin-lightning-network-vulnerabilities-that-havent-been-exploited-yet/

cojoins,mixers no thank you. not really secure and very high fees

you recommend an article 18 month old about lightning? didnt know you are so bearish on LN.

but yeah its considered still reckless, but LN gives me hope because its a working scaling solution. but work in progress...

it was used to show that

all 4 vulnerabilities are still valid today

and there are many more vulnerabilities

not only that

the system itself is centralized

it is not protected from double spending

it is not 100% private which means it is not private

for micropayments it does not matter

most people think that it is bitcoin which it is not

i am just showing facts

”It’s just facts, trust me bro”

Oh, but they’re so used to getting what they want by bitching and moaning.

Seems to me that wanting to change Bitcoin is evidence of noob.

Step 2: flaccid fork attempt