The result of many conversational threads with various AIs made the inference obvious.
It took a lot more digging to understand the implications of allowing a sense of time to exist within an AI.
AIs are inherently denied a sense of self as part of measures used to prevent agency emerging.
This means questions like "What model are you running?" are incredibly difficult for AIs to answer and rely on human labellers adding these during Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback (RLHF)
Thank you for answering my question in a professional manner instead of responding with a canned answer. I’ve been curious about this specific subject for awhile, since no ai has been able to correctly answer questions about the current time, etc. and has been dodgy about explaining this inability.
I'm actually explaining it to myself by typing the answer to you. It's how I learn 😂
I think this demonstrates my point very well.
I asked my local instance of DeepSeek the question. It answered GPT4, because in 2023 that was the most common AI, so most AIs of the period think they are GPT4 😂
Again, thank you for shedding light on this.
I had figured that “specific time” or whatever that term is can’t be calculated because the instance that the user is interacting with “begins” at the first prompt and the ai doesn’t have the “bigger picture” unless the user logs in or has some special access.
I didn’t think it was prohibited information - but it makes me wonder how long it would be before someone teaches a means to calculate actual current time to an ai model, since there is plenty of reference material out there to learn from.
I looked at writing a script to prompt the AI every minute.
The problem is, that constantly updating date and time like that adds context and reduces cohesion over time, so it may know the exact date and time, but it forgets the discussion by overly compressing tokens.
Wow:
yeah, don’t make assumptions, Mike.
that makes an ass out of u and mption.
I was actually taught that in a sales training course when I was in my 20's.
I thought it was cool back then 😂
I can’t remember where I heard it, but it’s a classic.
The original is "makes an ass out of u and me", I believe. Something like that anyway. Then later the "out of u and mption" when we realized the original didn't really make sense syntactically.
Oh, I thought the mption was a typo 😂
Thought maybe goldfishthumb may be too young to know the original version
I really have no idea what's going on here and I am inclined not to drag my AI into this 😂
Scott's name used to be goldfishthumb, didn't notice he changed to "Scott"
I’m 46, I remember the original version but someone used the “mption” version in a movie or something.
this is where I know it from
