I hate the idea of vaccine adjuvants, too. But, the benefits of vaccination on the population level are greater than any possible side effects when there is a descent chance to get infected. If I have to choose between taking a vaccine or a virus (with high probability) I will take the vaccine. The idea (that I often hear) that viruses are natural and therefore good is wrong. There is nothing natural about modern city live. Also, viruses cause inflammation. Sometimes for the rest of your life.
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nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev isn't reasoning well but the gestalt of his argument is valid. If vax administration causes system-wide inflammation, then what if the cure is worse than the disease? This hasn't been adequately studied. Lifelong allergies for 50% of population, and continuing propogation of weak genetics, and way too many old people dying of chronic diseases that need long term care, vs 20% of your sickly people dying and leaving the gene pool, and folks dying younger but more quickly and not taxing the system. What if that's what we're looking at? Nobody asks that question. Half (made up stat) of my younger colleagues want people to live forever and are afraid of death. My older colleagues are bleeding hearts and want to eliminate suffering.
Doctoring needs to focus on relieving the suffering of the individual, not groups. There is a fine line between using evidence to guide care for an individual (i.e. which med works for this?), and using it to dictate public health. The key is in admitting you don't know what you don't know. And you don't know what you didn't measure.
The corruption and hubris of the scientigic community and medical system in the US is sickening. I happen to have dipped toes in both pools, and internationally. The vast majority of us who are actually caring for people don't have the bandwidth to adress even a fraction of the problems. We usually can't even verify the quality of evidence handed to us, instead outsourcing that to a third party.
Lastly, it's okay to call out poor reasoning, sensationalism, etc., but I find it poor form to assign another human a "lane". Really, this lane of health is everyone's.
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Claiming the benefits outweigh the side effects is a blanket and unsubstantiated claim that has nothing to do with the science. Because the science has completely failed to quantify the degree and severity of the side effects.
To the contrary it has ignored and covered it up. Again, find me the controlled clinical long term trials of vaccinated vs unvaccinated. If you make broad, declarative claims you need to back it up. You can’t just lean in “a bunch of people say this” as evidence.
Vaccines got us rid of smallpox among other things. Any possible effects vaccines *might* have are small in comparison on the population level. You may get a vaccine that kills you for a disease that you weren’t at risk of acquiring. But that is rare. Nevertheless, more research is welcome. You are looking for serious adverse reactions for a massive amount of people that show no signs in the first year after vaccination. Sounds unlikely to me. There is little pressure to fund such studies.
Also I would ask. Are you suggesting that whatever the side effects are, that “vaccinating” literally baby girls for “cervical cancer when they are like 80 years old” with an HPV shot is worth it? Even though there’s literally no possible way they can now giving this to an infant will have any effect whatsoever with a patient that has absolutely no risk for the issue. It’s such an absurdity of interventionism without any risk assessment that common sense alone should make it non viable.
reasonable, but depends on the illness, the timing, the combinations, and the dosage.
If you really feel that way, I think you’re misinformed, but I respect the honest approach to the subject.
You’re free to take any vaccines or medicine you wish, just don’t force it by mandate onto me, my future children, or any other people who do not consent.
Don‘t worry, I don‘t vote for anything or anyone.