Lol, sorry my response clearly went over your head. I'm not suggesting number/test strings are easier to remember.

I'm saying there is some argument out there that they are technically superior to BIP39 seed words.

I don't think BitcoinQT(this is the literal Bitcoin Core wallet)uses seed words is it shitty and dangerous 🙄

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Not surprisingly, you do not understand the argument at hand, or you are deliberately misrepresenting it.

Also, you don't seem to understand what bitcoin core's role is as a reference implementation, but keep referring to it while we're actually talking about HWWs, which is a whole different thing. LOL

A security model sucks if it's just technically superior. That was the whole point of adding mnemonics as an extra layer of security: to optimize the human factor.

Bitkey is suboptimizing the human factor. Its anti-bitcoin ethos. It's "don't verify, trust" wrapped in a shitty product.

Do you not know what Bitcoin qt is🤣🤣🤣. Seed wordless is fine, BitKey may not be.

Okay, cool.

I'm not going to discuss things where an internet search and 10 seconds of reading time will give you a definitive answer.

People can just look up "bitcoin qt and core" themselves and see that you're full of it. Same goes for "ux perspective on security models".

Have a great life, man

I'll save you the time:

Bitcoin Core (QT) does not use seed words or support BIP39, the most common standard for seed phrases. Instead, it relies on soft copy backups of the wallet file.

I lost you at „holistically“ already, didn’t I?

Yes, I know that. Almost everybody on here probably does.

Hence, mnemonics as an *additional layer* of security. That’s a fancy way of saying it’s a mechanism *on top* of what you just described. Core as reference implementation doesn’t necessarily need to have this. It’s nonetheless essential to bitcoin.

Plus, when I say „psychological“ and „human factor“, I don’t mean memorizing. I mean the separation of ‚access credentials‘ from technological or pen-and-paper solutions to enhance the self-custody experience.

Mnemonics re-naturalize the math that’s going on, freeing users from the need to use tools. That is extremely liberating.

But I guess that’s just not your way of thinking, so any further talk is pointless. As Nietzsche said, words are only “rainbows and illusive bridges between things which are eternally apart”

Bye.