1. Yes, I proved that "the bases of the platforms are covered by the physical horizon". I proved that to you **mathematically** (not necessarily visually). The video does not "clearly shows" anything, because it is very blurry, as it's supposed to be in these cases. And yes, you can see water "behind" the platforms thanks, again, to Fata Morgana, a well known phenomenon.

2. I never said that the physical horizon "can be seen", I said it **is** there, which is different. What you see is a distorted image, light. Understand that light can be bent, reflected, refracted, you can do all sorts of things with light, as in this case. I even told you that for you to corroborate that the horizon **is** physically there, you would need to have a very long stick to touch it, because your eyes wouldn't be of help.

Yes, the horizon has a curvature, that doesn't mean that you are perceiving it. Most people don't perceive it until very high altitudes. Remember we're measuring stuff here, not perceiving.

3. No, you won't notice the horizon falling down your eye sight until very very high altitudes. It does fall eventually, but you never experienced it in your life.

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact, that the farthest platform cannot be seen as tall as the first one. As expected.

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact that we don't know the height of the sea level at that moment (another missing piece of information).

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact that your initial proposition that "they shouldn't be seen at all according to the model" was proven FALSE.

I'll repeat that last sentence, because you seem to have problems understanding the **point** of my argument here:

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact that your initial proposition that "they shouldn't be seen at all according to the model" was proven FALSE.

The model DOES EXPECT them to be seen partially, as they are.

In relation to your image, no, no, no, no. That angle is not accurate, that is not the real angle that you're experiencing. It is a **representation** for illustrative purposes (otherwise the degrees would appear on the screen, you see a number there?, no). As I said many times before, for you to experience a falling of the horizon below your eye level, you need much much higher altitudes, that you never experienced in your life.

You also put a note "the base of the platforms should be visible", but the base of the farthest platform is clearly NOT visible. You can see that platform appears to be below the closest one.

Again, back to the main point of my argument.

This is not about how many feet are seen or hidden, this is about you believing the lies of the video.

1. They told you that "according to the model" the platforms shouldn't be seen at all. That's lie.

2. They told you that "the horizon is behind the platforms", when in reality it is Fata Morgana, as expected in these cases. Another lie.

3. They told you that "light travels in straight lines", another lie. Light travels in a medium that may not be straight.

These are three basic lies that they use to fool people into believing that a model doesn't work, when in reality they apply it the wrong way, on purpose.

These are well known misinformation techniques used profusely in propaganda and psychological operations by government agencies. As well as the video editing style, etc. It's all very hypnotic, as you may have noticed. It is on purpose.

I suggest you watch the "Behind the Curve" documentary, where more lies from Flat Earth influencers are exposed.

The documentary is very well done, very professional, very impartial, and genuinely entertaining.

I believe that the producers really wanted flatearthers to do better, but instead they found them blatantly lying. Which made me very sad. It's always sad when you find out a liar.

And what's even more sad, they tripled down on the lies after the release of the documentary. That tells you that they will never learn, and that they must have very selfish motivations to do what they do.

Seriously, watch it, it's a very good documentary.

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1. A mathematical model can never represent reality, but only a simplification or an approximation. If the mathematical model predicts a physical barrier and you obviously don't see one in reality, then there is something wrong with the model. So there is no mathematical proof of you and you want to explain the situation by a mirage. This issue is described in this video better than I could (the Fata Morgana (Mirage), reflection and bending). But I know you will not look into it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nJenY3zKWLs

2. How can a physical barrier that should conceal an object not be visible and not conceal the object? In this example, the horizon should lie in front of the oil rigs (as in the mathematical diagram) and cover the lower part. In the globe model there should be a visible physical horizon, the reality shows that there is no physical horizon, but an optical convergence of sky and earth.

If „P“ earth has a radius of 3959 miles,

Then „Q“ every geometric horizon can be 1.22 miles x square root of observer height in feet

Not „Q“ We do not have a geometric (physical) horizon at that distance

Not „P“ the earth is not a globe of 3959 miles

3. I had used a different calculator for the calculation, but the video uses the correct one!

I know that this is not the correct angle as the graphic in the calculator is not true to scale. It should just be a diagram for the description. However, it doesn't change the fact that you should experience a curve in the horizon at some point. But no matter how high you go, it's always completely horizontal.

In my opinion, the bases of the oil platforms are clearly visible, the rear platform is optically higher than the front one and you can see more water behind it. No physical barrier to see. This is not a mirage.

However, this discussion is completely pointless and I will not invest any more energy in it. I don't want to be called a liar or anything else.

The answer to your questions is "Fata Morgana". Well known phenomenon.

And again, I have no interest in proving to you any "model". What I do want to prove to you, and I did, is that the video you posted is based on lies.

In reality according to the model you should be able to see most of the platforms. They lied to you.

Now, in relation to the video you just posted.

This guy shows as "proof" of... something? a video made by a drone flying up on a beach... Really, you can't see the error here?

These people lie blatantly to you.