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I've yet to read Father Spyridon's book, but it's an interesting review of it. I imagine Vallee is more forever agnostic to come to these conclusions.

i would take "ufos built to spec from a mobile contruction center at the bottom of the ocean" over demons. demons is just a lazy replacement for the unknown. might as well just say its magic.

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I think you're working from a different paradigm. Demons are very much known in a (esp. Orthodox) Christian paradigm.

As is the supernatural in general, obviously.

Supra-natural(?)

You get what I mean tho

yes my paradigm is based on observables not religious doctrine. you might as well replace ufos with ghosts/demons and it would be the same argument

Well that is kind of vallee's point. The UFO appearing within different ages/different mindsets as ghosts, monster, fairies etc etc.

I've seen it described as a sort of blank, incomprehensible encounter or interruption, something from 'anorjer dimension'.which we do not have the faculties to reason. The blank is then filled with a familiar language eg ghost, or a futuristic, more secular language eg silver space age blob or plasma or whatever 'ufo'.

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Would you count the transcendental argument for the existence of God as an observable argument? 🤔

Can't remember who described it like this, but it stuck with me. They described the traditional ghost in a white sheet as a sort of unrendered graphic of the brain. A 'default' type image that hasn't been filled in.

Not sure what I make of that but it seemed quite poetic lol

Wait I think it's the 'extradimensional hypothesis' as opposed to extraterrestrial. I think keel also uses this phrase, or something similar with spectrum. Which he proposes as potentially why there are often injuries associated with encounters, (burns and what not).

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I think 'demons' is not far from the 'interdimensional hypothesis' which vallee/keel propose. One is just a phrase which is more digestible to a secular world view, but practically the same thing.