Just means they aren’t actually libertarian. Libertarian is an idea, the people corrupting it are just your regular humans. Same goes with any political, religious, etc. leanings, no?

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hmmm

isn't this just the "no true scotsman" fallacy?

Ah jump to the fallacy bullshit logic arguments instead of just responding to my actual point. Very nice.

i mean, i understand your frustration, but isn't that essentially your point?

that the libertarian ideology is pure and the people who "corrupt" are not (or should not be) true representatives of it. and that this happens in other collectives (religion, politics, etc.).