Why Phoenix told everyone to use the drain wallet feature in the app and then pay 50% of the prevailing mempool rates to do so is just astoundingly ridiculous. We are talking $2-$3 to leave everyone trying to move wallets in limbo. Oh, also they have RBF disabled. Now I have to load in Sparrow, sync to my node, and create a cpfp transaction. Insanity.

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And most people don't even now how to do that so they're essentially scared and waiting.

I can’t even imagine less experienced users trying to navigate this. Makes people that recommended them look like scammers too. I just do not understand what the thought process was here.

What can I do to fix this? I'm not very experienced and it all sucks

Thanks for sharing I'll see if I can figure it out

Good deal.

This is why I ultimately moved my local bartender to Strike after WoS and Phoenix failed him. It may be KYC, but he doesn't care. He just wants to stack some sats for pouring me a beer.

As long as they understand the trade offs, I’m good with whatever they want. It’s getting people into stuff when they are clueless and setting them up for a potential loss of sats that I can’t live with. Only even recommended Phoenix to intermediate users.

Yep. Same here. Going out with a whimper.

Quite sad.

Maybe Im missing something cuz my LN knowledge is minimal, but is there any reason it cant be sent to another LN wallet and save the insane fees?

Most self custodial ones require an initial on chain deposit to get a channel open. That’s the only proper way to do a Lightning wallet outside of running your own Lightning node.

Oh I meant sending the little I will have left after I spend the bulk to alby or like the fountain app or some shit. One that already exists in other words

I would like to have a large channel that is self custodial. If you’re just sending to a custodial wallet, that’s easy.

Yea I have no intention of setting up another self custody right now. This is my second Im getting fucked on since end of last year and im done wasting money I dont have for now

Going to try out Zeus.

Once I do get around to it, Im considering that or mutiny. Mutiny seems more straightforward for my knowledge base but one of the two. But that gotta wait. Farthest thing from a big baller so the setup fees are prohibitive for me at the moment

Basically I intend to have so little left that I couldnt do an on-chain and really not worried about losing if need be.

Yeah, that works too. I figured for $6, I’d rather just be done, closed, and move on.

Ok cool. I just wasnt sure if there was something I was missing in that they made no suggestion of sending to another. Im talking about maybe a couple thousand sats most after my purchase so not worried about that in alby.

Yea im fucked my transaction is stuck and I don't know what to do 😭

Import in Sparrow and do a cpfp transaction. It’s a massive pain.

Welp I'm fucked. I don't understand anything you just said

I just sent you a video on it. Download Sparrow, Import your Phoenix seed phrase, and follow the instructions in the YT video. Don’t just throw your hands up.

Thanks bro I'll give it a shot

Did you run an electrum server or a Bitcoin core node?

Core node

Wouldn't transferring to a different lightning wallet have sufficed instead of figuring out what the drain wallet feature does?

Yes. But wanted to try out Zeus and that requires an on chain channel to open. Many people probably just want to close out the channel and move to base layer too. Obviously didn’t anticipate this being an issue.

Yup, over here like a cheerleader rooting for 12sat/vbyte to validate.

Don’t think that is on the horizon.

I agree. Down the rabbit hole I go again to figure out how to bump that fee up. I’m a bit of a dumbass but will add this to my ever growing list.