Nostr Web Client

#FYI to anyone who is listing items for sale on a NIP-99 based Marketplace, such as on #Amethyst, #Shopstr, or Cyber.Space:

You absolutely WILL miss sales if you are not using a client that supports NIP-17 DMs. This is because Shopstr only notifies you of sales using this DM spec and sends you the payment as eCash tokens retrievable via said DM.

If you can't receive NIP-17 DMs, you will never know that the payment has been sent, but the buyer will still be out the sats.

There are plenty of clients that now support NIP-17 DMs. Here are a few:

#Amethyst

#Coracle

#0xChat

Why has Shopstr made this decision? Because NIP-17 DMs are quite a bit more private than NIP-04 DMs, since less metadata is leaked. Similarly, eCash as an in-between for payment is great for receiver privacy, which is not great by default on Lightning. Yet because there are still several popular clients that do not support NIP-17 (maybe waiting for something even better that nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7erfw36x7tnsw43z7un9d3shjqpqzuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsz294jr is working on?) it creates a frustrating experience for both buyers and sellers.

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₿eck 1y ago

thanks for the info for us newbies!

NOSTRPUNK 1y ago

I've had several UX issues involved with shopstr.

Apparently somebody bought something and put in an email as a contact.

1 Why is that an option?

2 Do better.

calvadev⚡️ 1y ago

The buyer can input whatever they want as a way to be contacted, and some people still prefer that method of communication so it's there.

elsat 1y ago

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nostr:npub16dhgpql60vmd4mnydjut87vla23a38j689jssaqlqqlzrtqtd0kqex0nkq is this marketplace spec converged yet?

JeffG 1y ago

I don’t think the marketplace spec is converging. Nip-99 classifieds are not the same as storefronts or e-commerce shops.

Gzuuus 1y ago

No, but I believe it's a valid use case to extend it to allow e-commerce without removing the classifieds. This is a natural evolution, as e-commerce clients using Nostr have adopted NIP-99, which requires a custom implementation for checkout, communication, and other features, and this has led to confusion and poor user experience for both merchants and customers.

JeffG 1y ago

Oh yeah. That feels reasonable. I always thought the marketplace nip was really heavy weight for simpler use cases