Yeah Iām happy to shit in muesli or cornflakes or weetbix or on toast or pancakes.
Rack em up. If it means making normies uncomfortable, Iām there as is the INTJ army.
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Iām going on a diet š
I reckon thatās the difference between P and J.
You donāt have the stomach to do what we would do.
Would you #BBTG? 
On a serious note, I always shy away from a fight, but if a fight is forced upon me, I will do anything and everything to win and will put everything into it. Once engaged, I canāt back down and I can never loose.
At an event a few years ago, I met a girl I went to school with, I thought she was too cool to hang around with, but she told me she was too scared of me and avoided me.
I always thought I was a cute puppy, but Iāve since been told by many F&F that I can be very fearsome if engaged.
Js pick fights.
If youāre wrong you need to know - thatās how our brains work.
I got muted by hodlbod today because I resisted his āDeepSeek doesnt answer Tiananmen Squareā horseshit.
Heās a P, not a J. Someone judging him is too uncomfortable for him, he wanted to make that observation unopposed but my mind saw it and it was like a red rag to a bull - fuck him, he needs to eat shit for his nonsense and I donāt care the consequences to me, I want to impose reality on him.
INTJs are the Maxis because they donāt care about consequences. Theyāll shit in any bowl if they think it the right thing to do, even if that bowl is headed to a grave this afternoon.
INTJs are the best and worst thing to ever happen to Bitcoin. Itās catnip for us, and we become cunts once we go down the rabbithole.
To add nuance, I will initiate a fight if I see corruption or immoral actions.
Also, I tend to be more thoughtful and logical, I agree with your analysis, but I struggle to filter out the emotional and antagonistic tones.
This was the problem I had reading Rogerās book āHijacking Bitcoinā, he was so full of anger, it hid his arguments, some of which are valid.
>āTo add nuance, I will initiate a fight if I see corruption or immoral actions.ā
Thatās just another red rag to a bull for the Judgemental side. Corruption or immoral actions will be smashed.
Js donāt care about emotional and antagonistic tones; theyāll just attack them. That shit doesnt work on them.
Iām not saying weāre right, we likely arenāt as much as we think we are. Iām just describing the nuance youāre pointing to in real terms from the J side to a P.
Adding my own nuance I guess.
Interesting, thanks.
You've probably explained a lot about the types of fights I've engaged in over the years and the personality traits of the individual with whom I've fought.
It sounds like Roger Ver may well be an INTJ š
Yes when you frame J vs P like this a lot more Bitcoin arguments make sense.
The important thing to note is the Js are the ones dragging the Overton window. They are impossible to outnegotiate. They are the real autists. They donāt care what the Ps think, theyāll beat them over the head until they agree or subvert them.
Bitcoin will either fail or meet INTJ standards - the middle ground is unacceptable to Js and at 1/3 they are the minority to reckon with.
Just to add some nuance to your nuance.
Iām guessing the major fights in my life have been fought with INTJās primarily because they thought I was soft and they believed they couldnāt loose (as you suggest).
Be careful of making assumptions, those opponents were in error.
Hubris is a weakness, mine is huge, but I am self aware and mostly able to control it.
Also, I'm a passenger now with Bitcoin, but LCDs, the Internet and LoRa are all Overton windows I have moved in my time.
Thatās a lot of nuance Mike!
Itās not that INTJs didnāt think they could lose. Itās that when they pick a hill to die on youāre gonna have to go through them and kill them all (metaphorically speaking) or youāll end up at their position in the end. I donāt know how to describe that phenomenon, but itās true.
This is where most opponents go wrong. When they plant a flag itās not their first point of retreat. Thatās not how INTJs work - where they plant the flag may seem arbitrary to you but itās real to them - thatās the line and itās life or death at the line.
Hubris is not a good accusation against them.
Js are rightly or wrongly, principled AF. Theyāre not acting from hubris, they can justify their position.
Like me with Hodlbod - he muted me but I had a whole chain of logic behind my comments; he was too weak to hear it. I could be wrong, weāll never know, but Iām not just gonna let some fucktard cry bald eagle as if thatās a winning move whilst I repost and laugh at him.
Interesting, it is definitely my personal sense of morality that doesnāt allow me to back down.
Perhaps I have a little bit of J in me š