Nostr Web Client

Maybe food for thought: One thing that Mastodon has going over Nostr, is branding. I mean, unless you want to "dive" into the third party ecosystem, Mastodon looks pretty much the same, wherever you access it - it's always the Mastodon web client - that's how you can recognize it easily.

On Nostr, many clients feel like seperate entities. Someone may be on Primal, another Iris, another Damus - Seems like these are seperate entities.

When you ask, are you on Mastodon?

It's a clear, yes or no.

Are you on Damus?

What is Damus even?

Oh, it's Nostr. Is this, like the internet?

I still think there's no good solution here; I wonder what's more mental overhead for users: Mastodon with multiple servers, or Nostr, with keys and relays.

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Franz 2y ago

One should really keep in mind, how non-techies see the world. I've once seen a statistic that most people wouldn't be able to tell you what they use to access the internet. They just use what's there - the icon that's familiar.

Not sure how this has shifted over the years, but it doesn't mean that these people are stupid; They may have in-depth knowledge in other fields, which they like to share with others.

It's certainly easier to jump on Twitter to share, than to find the right Mastodon server, or figure out which app to use to access Nostr. Twitter is Twitter - on iOS, Android, the Web. Yes, that's a disadvantage, but it's also a tremendous advantage.

Sweet 2y ago

Custom branding has worked out really well for some Fediverse servers. Poa.st is the only big one right now, but others have come and gone. It's just a matter of getting the word out and making onboarding is simple and easy.

I just made an account tonight and it was a nightmare. Clients overwriting each other's relays and follows, things not working that were just fine on my other keypair, etc. Things that have to be solved.

nostr:nprofile1qqs8nsk2uy2w529fs8n4tx60u7z553e4yx5dy2nxhw4elgjgawpqlaspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qzxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eeks6t5vehhycm99ehkuegprfmhxue69uhkummnw3ezucm0d9hxvatwv35hgtnrdaksarhv08 is already working on porting his brandable software to Nostr so you can easily run branded clients. Once that's done, you'll start to see more overlaps in the strengths of the two ecosystems. Nostr just isn't ready right now. It's annoying to use in a lot of ways. The only people who will stay are people who are okay with alpha software.

roya ୨୧ 2y ago

you would like mastodon, it all makes sense. you should stay over on mastodon, with your likeminded individuals.

Franz 2y ago

Okay? If you don't like me, why do you still engage? :)

HoloKat 2y ago

That’s a good point. Id like to talk to people to see how they understand these things, together or separately if at all.

Женя Бахметьев 2y ago

Mastodon is an app over ActivitiPub protocol.

Franz 2y ago

Yes sure, you're right. Mastodon ultimately is just an activity pub client / server; but that's exactly it. It's a brand by now. Nobody (99%) cares about the activity pub part, and most users relying on activity pub, are using Mastodon presumably (though that's really just a guess).