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A hellthread for newbies should happen. Great idea from nostr:npub1n0pdxnwa4q7eg2slm5m2wjrln2hvwsxmyn48juedjr3c85va99yqc5pfp6 🔥🤙

Maybe one thread gets auto-created per day, for new accounts? A bot could perhaps moderate (ie create and add accounts)? Or a client could look for a specific hashtag or highlight/group users some other way?

I’d love to see a client that incorporates this into the onboarding flow.

Something simple like a hashtag-based recommendation. “Join a thread with other users who signed up this week” and show the most recent conversations with the #NewbieThread hashtag or something like this.

Seasoned nostriches could also follow the hashtag if their client supports it (most clients seem to allow following hashtags now, right?), and we can chime in to offer technical support or guidance to the hatchlings.

Thoughts? Problems with this?

Wish I’d heard of this before our panel on Thursday, nostr:npub1aeh2zw4elewy5682lxc6xnlqzjnxksq303gwu2npfaxd49vmde6qcq4nwx nostr:npub1hqaz3dlyuhfqhktqchawke39l92jj9nt30dsgh2zvd9z7dv3j3gqpkt56s nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424

#plebchain

#introductions

#grownostr nostr:note1z9v5mj2rhu097tfq8s58ds434l7nma09xcje8lqf9qluhvr7s9ss90vx3m

inpc 1y ago

The concept of a hell thread is new to me. I didn’t come from X so not familiar with the term. On the Fediverse I follow the introductions tab and say hi to new people, just as a courtesy, I think it’s a nice thing to do.

If it’s more creating a massive thread for them, maybe not so good? Especially if bots are involved? My first experience on Nostr was a bit spouting racist bullshit on every post I made. Not the best welcome…

Helping them with links to guides and stuff is great. An tell them how to mute things asap!

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boston wine 1y ago

Hey! First, thanks for your reply!

That sucks about the early bot experience. Not a fun intro. Most people here are very decent, though.

Anyway, “hellthread” is a term of endearment for a note with tons of tagged users, so that whenever someone replies, everyone who was tagged gets notified (and so the notifications from conversations within a hellthread can be pretty overwhelming). Most clients let you “mute” the conversation now, without muting the users whom you may still want to engage with in the future.

But it’s a good way to get a bunch of people to “meet” and find one another, which can otherwise be somewhat difficult. My thinking re: a bot account was moreso that it could “watch” for a newly created npub, perhaps with some filtration criteria to verify that it’s a human account and not spam, and then the “nostr 4 newbies” bot could comment on the newest note with a hashtag #NewbieThread (or whatever) and tag the new user, perhaps also with a canned response to explain what’s happening…

Nostr 4 Newbie bot? N4N?

N4Nny?

Like the nice nanny who suggests that you invite your new friend over after school? Lol idk at this point just having fun (and overtired 🫠)

inpc 1y ago

When I see that sort of stuff I always think of a 17 year old kid in their bedroom being edgy on the internet for kicks, they're clearly trying to illicit a response and if you don't give one, they tend to disappear (although I assume it's still replying as when I try a new client, it's back again). I can see a lot of people thinking that's a hard no from them though.

Now I know what you mean by a hell thread it makes more sense. I envisioned it more like a pile on, which even done in good faith, could be a bit overwhelming.

Maybe a bot that responded to introductions with a simple guide to Nostr? That would be pretty cool IMO, although way over my skill level!

Hashtags are cool.

boston wine 1y ago

Hey friend, sorry to never answer this! It must have gotten buried in my notifications because I don’t recall reading it. But someone just liked another note in the thread, so when I read through it again just now, I found your reply 🤙

Definitely agree re: the bot behavior. It’s juvenile and toxic at best, but definitely a swift move to turn away interested new users who perhaps aren’t prepared to be responsible for the bulk of their own content consumption and moderation, or who are just testing the waters to see what an uncensored digital communication network looks like, and what they find ranges from unsavory to downright awful. It’s rare, in my experience, but still a problem without an obvious solution.

I love your idea of an introductions “reply guy” bot. That’s a really clever approach, and there is definitely an opportunity to improve the onboarding experience here. (I wouldn’t know how to code it either, but we’re lucky that nostr is chock-full of brilliant devs).