Mutes and follows are the WoT tools we use right now but muting my cousin who shares too many food fotos isn't distrust and following some malicious influencer isn't trust.

I'm very curious how WoT will work in nostr. How will people express their trust for some plumber without following them or endorsing them for financial advice? Which application will bootstrap WoT on nostr? How will the interface be so that people actually care to provide this valuable data?

We really only need to crack this puzzle for a tiny niche first. As soon as it works for handymen in Springfield - better than any established platform - we can grow from there. The network effect will do the rest.

Ideally, the primitives are so simple that any app developers that need WoT will integrate this WoT into their tools, too cause the network effect doesn't only work for users, it also works for developers. Build and they will come? Just build! They are there already!

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We need a new spec for endorsements that is similar to but separate from badges.

yes, you are dead right. contextual trust is the key, and its basically solved.

my recent note history has a lot of flippant comments about this and nostr:nprofile1qqsw2feday2t6vqh2hzrnwywd9v6g0yayejgx8cf83g7n3ue594pqtcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uq36amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wvf5hgcm0d9hx2u3wwdhkx6tpdshsd8m8kr 's longform articles are great around this topic

These are great questions that Leo raises. First, what are the WoT primitives that we need but haven’t built yet? Second, where does the “trust signal” come from? Follows and mutes are a start but we need more than that if we want to tackle trust in specific contexts. Which raises the next question: who manages the list of “trust contexts”?

My short answers to these questions:

The trust signal comes from anywhere and everywhere we can get it. Follows, mutes, zaps, reactions, attestations, we use it all. How? Via the magic of *interpretation*, which means: write a script that takes some subset of the raw data (follows, reactions, attestations, whatever) and converts that into a format that is convenient for whatever algo you are using. I need to write an to date article on interpretation — I have an old one but it’s not very well fleshed out.

And who determines the lists of contexts? Who crafts the attestations? The fiat answer: the dev team of some big centralized platform. The freedom tech answer: your WoT. How can that work?

I strongly believe that Decentralized Lists is going to prove itself as one of the primitives for WoT. My WoT will help me

maintain a list of trust contexts, a list of attestations, the list of fields for any given attestation, etc.

It’s hard to envision the role that decentralized lists will play when it’s still just an abstract idea. Which is why one of my great hopes for this #wotathon is to see apps that implement decentralized list curation. A generic app that can be used for any list would be a great entry for the hackathon. Or maybe an app that manages lists for some focused category, like lists of musicians for nostr:npub1h8gzew8am6cezuq7cpjgudldra40hgnruqrqlsrqnxnzs5wjtczqztps02 . Let’s see the teams form up and see what we can build!

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i'm brainstorming approaches that will let me hit decentralized lists and catallax in one project. very excited for this #wotathon and even more excited for the spring after!

Come to our hackaton! :) we will meet on thrusday every day from next week to april to keep pushing this.

That's a clear mistake in the current form of Nostr. There is no way to say "I am not interested in this or that topic" other than muting people. But mute is a lot more aggressive.

Well, clients also implement mute words but it's hard to mute food pictures or "most of her food pictures".