the words that come to mind are: sheep, cow, child

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I don't know. That's actually a tough question in this context

really not... one question to ask:

is this a human being who has been on the planet long enough to develop a spine?

if they aren't their own person, then they are still a child, and if far beyond the threshold of acceptable for being a child still (that's probably now about 25 years, by my estimation) then no, disregard and move on

I'm still not convinced. There's a lot of successfully self-reliant children out there that are still very much children... sadly. I'm sticking with casualties, in a spirit-death kind of way.

by your definition all psychologically mature adults are casualties of Life

that kinda takes the fun out of it

i prefer to say "you are a child until you find your way to become an adult"

nobody prescribes that path to you but the lucky ones have a guide

"Retain your child-like wonder"

"Don't neglect your inner child"

The end of growth marks the beginning of death... so yeah, maybe it's not fun & maybe it applies to everyone eventually, or maybe the tenacity of the human spirit can burn bright to the bitter end of physical existence.

Also, I keep X-ing nostr:npub16as8gepztj9tvyx6n9y4h3cv3gaytgpl3g32jhcxlj6mcss72uaqjwg2tf out of this conversation as to not blow up his notifications but whatever client you're using keeps reattaching 😬😂

oh, yeah, nostrudel...

most clients attach everyone to the tags... idk what to say, i'll stop following you if you prefer i not notify him in the conversation when he joins it

Oh no... not a big deal. I just notice stuff 😊

I didn't realize most clients did that, good to know.

yeah coracle does it too... coracle lets you unchek them tho

That's the behavior I think all clients should embrace. For courtesy reasons. 😅

literally can't avoid it on nostrudel, sadly

as a relay dev it's got too much going for it, so much so that one small thing fixed and it's the gold