See also https://x.com/matthew_d_green/status/1789690133765091532

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Don’t get me wrong… Durov’s arrest is certainly worrisome. But to me TG is grouped public billboard system and I assume messages are already CC’ed to govts worldwide.

My guess is the reason for kidnapping was so that France (and its NATO friends) are added to the CC moving forward.

I'm fully aware Telegram group chats are not e2e encrypted and their off-by-default DM encryption is dodgy.

But there's still SSL and even if the French government had a backdoor for that, it's a lot of work to monitor the Russian internet that way. It's easier when Telegram forwards the chats to them.

(And then use a bullshit excuse about facilitating crime to hide the real reason from the public)

Yep, indeed it's time to move to SimpleX and/or Matrix.

I'm already on both :-)

TG already has to comply with legal requests either way. Regardless of SSL I hope this is wake up call for anyone using TG for private comms.

The sort of data intelligence agencies want is not obtained with legal requests. Also Telegram never complies with those.