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@CaolanRob on the flyers in Kharkiv, Ukraine, teaching civilians what to do to try to avoid dying from a Russian FPV drone attack.

Russians use Ukrainian civilians in frontline cities as literal target practice.

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Kinda weird to call violence in an active warzone terrorism, no?

so targeting civilian on a bike in the city which is 5 km away from the front-line is a normal part of the war in your opinion?

Its a war crime, but terrorism and war crimes aren't the same thing. Terrorism happens outside of wars.

The purpose of it is to inflict terror into the population and convince them to flee.

You are a psychopath trying to minimize evil.

Language matters.

If you live 5km from the front lines of an active war zone, you should be terrified and flee, else be considered as part of the war fighting forces.

You are in fact the psychopath trying to minimize common sense and encourage death and war.

The edge of Kharkiv is 20km from the border; drones have much longer ranges than they used to.

Kharkiv is the place Russians are trying to invade and eliminate. Ukrainians have every right to be there; Russians have none.

Again, you are a psychopath making excuses for evil.

I’m not excusing anything, you’re excusing stupidity.

It doesn’t matter where people have a right to be, get the fuck far away from anywhere within range or accept the realities of war lead to death.

Again, you’re the psychopath encouraging continued war.

"encouraging continued war"

Russia's goal is to force the Ukrainian population out. You are explicitly advocating that Ukrainians give up and give Russia what they want rather than continuing to work their jobs, live in their homes, and fight to save what is theirs.

You are a psychopath encouraging continued war. For the obvious reason that giving up and giving Russia what they want means Russia has ever reason do to it all over again with the next Ukrainian city after Kharkiv.

You don't get peace by surrendering to invaders. You get peace by forcing them to stop.

...and let's be clear, Russia openly says they want victory: https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1931810231194984530

They have zero interest in peace.

Victory was clearly defined and could have been agreed to years ago, it was the west that encouraged Ukraine to choose war and “fight for peace” so they could play war games and test modern war theory on the battlefield at the expense of Ukrainian lives.

Russia wanted Ukraine to effectively totally surrender. Ukraine has already negotiated peace with Russia multiple times, only to have Russia break that peace each time and attack again.

Surrendering is not achieving peace.

Any child knows that. I'm sure you do too. You're just a psychopath who wants to see Ukraine die.

"It was russia who made the decision to invade ukraine but it was ukraine who choose war" - you are professor in logic )

And you’ve demonstrated my point precisely. By definition, you cannot “get peace” by “forcing them to stop.”

People like you are either ignorant or stupid, or purposely malicious. Take your pick, but I would call the later most certainly psychopathic. Look, if you’re just ignorant or stupid, I’ll give you a pass, but quite frankly, yes, give Russia what they want so that thousands of lives can be saved.

In my world, lives are saved. In your world, people die.

And don’t give me the WW2 nazi rhetoric, Russia quite frankly does not want a war with nato, and the people in the eastern part of Ukraine don’t give a shit about Kiev. Most of the smart ones already left for Russia anyways, as I said would be prudent.

You’re the war monger here.

In your world lives are not saved. People are enslaved and murdered. Ukrainians know damn well what happens in occupied territories.

And obviously, you certainly can stop an aggressor by forcing them to stop. That is peace. We've all achieved an uneasy peace with Russia by NATO making it too costly for Russia to attack. Egen though they're constantly blustering about taking NATO countries (e.g. the very popular "To Berlin!" propaganda phrase.

This is no different than how you can stop shoplifting and murderers by throwing them in jail. Russia is no different: they're just trying to steal land and expand their empire.

"The people in the Eastern part [of Ukraine] don't give a shit about Keiv"

😂😂😂

Russia slaughtered about 100,000 of them in Mariupol alone. I know people from that part of Ukraine. They hate Russia more than ever.

Seems like everyone on this post is fucked in the head. I made a comment about the symantics of the word terrorism and got called a psychopath? Get fucked.

But you do keep equating civilian Ukrainians with military ones, you can't do that and then be like 'attacking them is terrorism". If civilians leaving the warzone would help Russia win the war, then it's not terrorism, maybe it's a war crime but if you live within missile striking distance of the war front, you SHOULD BE FUCKING TERRIFIED that is how humans are supposed to feel when close to the barrel of a gun. If you're not in the military fucking leave and then you won't be scared. That isn't surrendering, you're not in the military, you're not surrendering

> you SHOULD BE FUCKING TERRIFIED that is how humans are supposed to feel when close to the barrel of a gun

I feel that but also I feel that I want to burn every russian with flamethrower the moment he crosses our border

Valid.

Right, so lets just ignore the pro-Russian Ukrainians who supported Yanukovych when he rejected the European Union and dive head long into a war with a nuclear power who stated explicit intent and offered ways to avoid conflict?

Let’s face it, you’re simply anti Russian who supports any form of aggression toward Russia and has no concern for the lives of those lost to war.

You are a war monger, and support the death of those you do not know.

I'm not sure that his goal in this video is to use precise legal terminology; he uses the word “terrorism” in an emotional sense. But it's still strange that you noticed only that.

I'm tired of talking to people here about the war in Ukraine, because unfortunately, I'm likely to hear nonsense about “NATO expansion,” “Putin has his reasons,” “Nazis in Ukraine,” or “persecution of russians in Ukraine.” Either people are hopelessly stupid, or russian propaganda is very effective.

Nostr is an even more extreme version of Bitcoin Twitter in many ways. It seems to have attracted a bunch of die hard contrarians with worthless opinions.

Maybe its also being actively astroturfed. But nostr is so niche I doubt it.

Worst part about it is a lot of these people aren't dumb. They're smart enough to latch on to non-mainstream nonsense to get an audience. It's a form of intellectual fraud really. And considering the subject matter, a pretty evil form of it.

Self defeating too: these psychos have a damn good chance of getting Bitcoin and freedom tech killed off.

Oh yea chud? Well I’m different. Both Russia and Ukraine need to be glassed.

maybe. my feeling is that for people it is easier to stick to the pattern than understand the real picture. pattern says - government prints money and funds the wars, so ukraine war fits this pattern perfectly.

also it is interesting to watch how some "bitcoin influencers" avoiding saying their opinion on this subject.

The most disgusting example was when Tucker Carlson interviewed putin and many people here started saying, “Oh, putin is quite intelligent and a reasonable person.” That's when I finally lost faith in exceptional intelligence of "bitcoiners" )

Yeah Pete, you're a case in point.

Don't think everyone is the same here.

"It seems to have attracted a bunch of die hard contrarians with worthless opinions."

#nostr is not a eden garden, and now they are more and more people here not especially bitcoiner.

Some people are interesting to listen or react to some opinion, some other to share their own opinion.

But some other are here for propaganda. And only that.

Don't confuse them with simple users here.

They are here only to add oxygen to any fire, as they already do on other social media.

That's why it is important to reply, to say we are not all the same, to oppose truth to obvious lies.

Because if no one do this, it will stay here only one voice, the propaganda one.

And it is true for these topics that i have seen here :

- China that is a "perfect" clean country, were people live happy and Uyghur are just opposing leaders peacefully, but they are not exterminated anyone...

- The fake news about European leaders that can introduce some doubt in weakness minds and push them to vote for "cleaner" nationalist that will broke any union against foreign enemy... How would U.S.A. be strong without the "U" letter ?

- Russia has just the right to exterminate Ukrainian civilian because ______ (you can put any reasons here, everybody know it is bullshit, but they try, and try again until some doubt came in weakness mind).

- Israel has just the right to exterminate Palestinian civilian because ______ (you can put any reasons here, everybody know it is bullshit, but they try, and try again until some doubt came in weakness mind). Even if for this "old" conflict they are many civilian that have been murdered on both side.

There is NO reasons and NO excuses to exterminate peoples like that.

So yes, here and anywhere else they are people only writing propaganda posts.

Does it means we are all dumb here ? no.

Does it means we have to stay quiet ? no.

Just focus on the good people voice for you, other will just be muted again and again.