- What do you mean by “if” every note is signed 🤔 it will be completely obvious
- OK but, obviously, that’s just an assumption in your end right?
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Yeah these are all assumptions/predictions on my end based on my observations of casual users on social networks.
I’d love to be wrong about this!
No offense, but I’m starting to think you don’t have an answer to my first question. Relays can’t show ads because they can’t fake signatures.
It would probably have to be some sort of new event kind that allows relays to sprinkle ads within regular notes. Would still be easy for clients to just not allow those event kinds if they choose.
What are your thoughts on how nostr could sustain a user base the size of twitters?
This is an open question and it’s good to speculate about it. But ads, at least the way you’re thinking about them, is just a bad answer. Detracts from the conversation.
shooting down ideas as “bad answer” while adding no answers of your own isn’t a conversation, it’s classic online snark. leave that shit on reddit lol
bro, sorry to be blunt but your “idea” is stupid. clients aren’t going to implement a new note kind just so relays can spam their users with ads. if anything clients need to be better at removing spam.
I think there’s lots of good ideas and if you took a second to read through my timeline that would be obvious, but here’s a couple:
- “uncle jim” relays like wss://anon.computer where some tech savvy person whitelists their friends and family
- dropbox model: free but you get bugged over dm when your “storage space” is running out and asked to upgrade
- the pay to post relays we already have
and the last 20+ years of social network data has shown that while enthusiast/heavy users of social networks are willing to pay for the service, the vast majority of casual users have zero interest in doing so, and are willing to put up with ads as the compromise.
So if we want nostr to expand beyond enthusiast users into a global social network the size of twitter, hoping casual users will miraculously be open to paying isn’t gonna cut it.
Btw, if you’re going to so quickly resort to lack of social awareness with “nope bad answer” and “stupid idea”, then feel free to ignore my posts and keep the autistic outbursts out the replies.
lol
Agree
the difference in nostr is the ability to not see ads is just switch to another client, so the ad ridden client needs to have a really powerful set of features that no one else has to be able to get away with it, in other words, social media ads are dead, what you'll actually see more is "influencers" shilling shit, because they have the audience. so IMO, the model will switch to full on endorsement ads, and those will popup on your feed because you follow those accounts.
yeah, I can see things like that, getting a percentage of zaps sent to posts, referral links, when products are shared, etc
lmao, so clients would have to opt-in to ads by implementing some new events kind?
I don’t see why a client would ever do that.