That looks like a nice kitty 😄

Keet seems very cool, but I have yet to hear any devs who truly understand how it works / recommend it. The general consensus is it seems like black magic. It may be as amazing as they claim, but I would just be careful about posting any sensitive information there.

And central servers are not inherently bad for communications, they offer many benefits. Signal is a great example.

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Signal is compromised...Probably. Jew activist CEO with bad history

There's Molly. Hardened client for Signal.

Nostr is getting Key, uses Signal and nostr protocol =) can't wait

Why not just use DMs?

Because the nostr clientsare retarded. Ox is a current messaging for Android and ios. Key maybe slightly better

Amethyst is okay. Though it creates 2 notifications for 1 DM. Which is really annoying.

Nostr DMs are currently not at all secure. But there is a proposal to bring Signal-like encryption to them (it will still be up to Nostr clients to implement that)

Are you referring to NIP 4? What's wrong with it?

Yeah, Nostr DM's are secure, just everyone can see who you are talking to but not WHAT is being said.

Was there something I missed?

That's fine for me.

It will be fixed by NIP-17 which is already in draft stage in Amethyst.

replace both nostr and signal with keet and be free of servers

Believe it when we see it (in the wild, in prd) 🙃

Lmfao what exactly is a “Jew activist” in your pathetic world view? And what the fuck does the CEO’s personal agenda have to do with Signal’s encryption or security?

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Yeah bro I saw the accusations. I have no knowledge of her reputation or her ethnic or religious background, or why that is of importance to you.

But I am fairly confident that Signal was built before she had any involvement. And I am certain that Signal’s open source protocol and client encryption has been scrutinized by many of the smartest cryptographers and developers around the world, and is generally recommended.

So you blindly trust people? Her being a shady Jew with a shady past is a red flag. I would avoid any Signal app

What is a “shady Jew”? You should seek help

This is an image that the CEO of Signal posted? Or this is something you are offering as proof that you are an asshole?

No, I am just saying, Signal cannot be trusted. She will probably fuck over everyone not a leftist

That may be, and I hope not. But again, you should seek help about your issue with hating Jews.

Muting this thread now 🤙

Good to know, thanks.

black magic? there is quite a few vids and docs explaining it and most of the code is open, the keet devs are also available in the keet rooms

Cool. For a long time I know that Keet source code itself was kept closed source, and only the underlying protocol was FOSS. Did they open source the Keet application code?

If you recommend any resources on how it works at a high level, I will certainly take a look.

I’ve just heard many smart ppl who I trust say something along the lines of “it sounds too good to be true”, but very happy to be wrong there

most of the application is the 'protocol' code which is open, but the ui and some other parts are not open yet

how it works is apparently not that complicated, you can browse a lot of the not yet open code in keet still, i know someone chatting on keet was exploring a beta version of a module called autobase before it was open sourced and worked out how it works, it is central to how the rooms run https://github.com/holepunchto/autobase

I have looked at the hole punch source code, it’s wayyy over my head. I’m just a humble data Python/SQL jockey

sounds too good to be true? which bit? lol, i have followed it since starting and it went thru many issues and a long period where it didnt scale well at all, but now that has been solved

i am not sure whats the point of doubting it as you can run keet or run pear and see it work pears.com

Where is the Keet application source code?

Doesn't exist

Holepunch (FOSS product of Bitfinex) is the source for how keet is built. Keet app is not FOSS.

Been using for years on & off and its still in the same state as when Guy & I found it years ago.

Again its cool but not what its made out to be

not true as the pear release had a massive open sourcing with it including most of the modules in keet

keet is in no way the same app it was 3, 6 or 18 months ago

it is what its made out to be and works very well

Guy pops up out of nowhere and starts shilling keet. I have questions.

Yeah brand new npub. Very sketchy

Why do you have to shill or defend a product? The product should shill itself

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Trying to give benefit of doubt here… but yeah. Bitfinex + Keet crowd have done great things but by no means are their records clean lol

see: Tether 🤣

110% brother! I'm just stating facts here no hate emits from this Being💜

#followid

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what is the dirty record of keet? no doubt tether is a ptoblem with all its involvement to pump crypto, including btc

Yeah just stay away from keet if you want true FOSS.

Its cool & all but not FOSS and Bitfinex funded so there's that

most of keet is foss and they have said the rest will be

Uhhhhhhhh wat

the app is made up of many modules, the majority of them are open source

they have had a history of not releasing new modules code until they are happy they work well and wont be changed much in the near term