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That's quite a far cry from total digital slavery though and only affects those who choose to put themselves through it. Most people in the world will never even set foot in an airport.

Not so sure. Most territories don’t have a roadway system even close to what’s in the West, nor their own vehicles.

They have to use public transportation that is more and more surveilled. Try to use a simple city bus in Dubai for example and pay with fiat. There’s not even such an option. And that’s a place where fiat paper is still used a lot and relatively permissive in general.

Come to China for a visit - a large percentage of people in the world. See how often you can pay routine expenses with paper fiat. CBDC is working there, and it’s only the beginning.

Try to use tor, unapproved encrypted messengers, or even some VPNs in such territories.

Even what he defines as slavery is rather subjective and debatable.

To me it means being unable to leave its owner’s territory - including digitally - without permission , or having any amount of my income confiscated just for working there.

Being unable to use certain apps, sites, or avoid constant blanket digital and physical surveillance is the digital extension. That’s more and more common.

Whatever “rights” people think they have are illusory and only exist as long as the individual keeps paying the territorial owners and doesn’t threaten their power or income stream.

Otherwise, owners immediately lower the“rights” below those of chattel, even in so called democracies.

As you know, we’re on the brink of a global income tax in many territories and some sheeple have already been subject to that for generations.

I think that writer just has a high tolerance for being told what to do and forced into the free (dark) markets, which is the common mindset worldwide.

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Joel Walbert 2y ago

What works in China works in China. Dont mean it will elsewhere. Anything attempted anywhere else failed because the tech is garbage and the people didnt go along with it. It takes a working product and compliance. If the product dont even work, compliance isnt even an issue. I also fail to see what all these transportation things have to do with anything in the article or the point I originally made. You're discussing a completely different set of problems.

Then easiest just to let the future show that it’s the same set of related problems, which just haven’t arrived in your territory to the same extent.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Im saying it will never happen here. Not anytime soon at least. I quite literally have zero concern for it. Getting 50 states to unilaterally go along with such things will be effective as getting 50 states to go along with covid policies. Everything digital control they try keeps failing. If you cant get poor nations to go along with CBDCs or similar, what chance they got in wealthier nations. The only thing they are good at is convincing people that their plans are inevitable. And they most certainly are not. Their puppet heads of state are just pathetic, and they showed their playbook in 2020. We are winning, unfortunately most people think we already lost

Joel Walbert 2y ago

And let's say it does happen. Fuck em. There will always be a way around it. Improvise adapt overcome. And when all else fails, 400 million known firearms in private hands (plus untold numbers not known) says fuck around and find out. Can only speak for the US, but so long as we out gun them, they can only push so far. Severity of covid policies were tied to gun ownership state by state. Lots of guns, little to no policies with little no no enforcement. States with strict gun laws went full lockdown with enforcement. They are scared and panicking. They are getting sloppy. And their tech is just fucking garbage.

Even in America, most people have too much to lose - family, business, liberty - to rebel, and under constant digital surveillance would have no time to organise the way was possible in previous generations.

With American covid-gun correlation, my thesis is that it was the reverse: the states with more remaining liberties in general, also allow more civilian guns and less covid nonsense.

The plandemic lockup drill worked incredibly well: even in America with all the civilian guns, locking up everyone, destroying so many small businesses, and all other completely unconstitutional nonsense, didn’t lead even close to an armed rebellion.

Digital slavery played a big part in that.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

And yet there are zero public covid policies still in place. That's a win. And even when in place, they were largely ignored more than they were followed. Allegedly had a lockdown in my state, yet I continued life as if nothing was happening. There was no need for armed rebellion when the places where guns are concentrated were still moving about freely. The media concentrated on NY and Cali as far as covid was concerned. Those were the exceptions, not the rule.

May it always be so, for your sakes! 🙏🏻

Joel Walbert 2y ago

I hope your not taking any of this to mean my heads in the sand or anything like that. Quite the opposite. I just dont see any ov their plans working large scale after the sloppy covid bs. Too many more are onto their game now than ever before. They fucked up. Will shit happen here and there, almost certainly. But too many variables and too much in-fighting between the various factions of the control freaks for their big plans. Plus as I think I said earlier, their puppets are ineffectual ass clowns. Aus and Canada did one hell of a job resisting without the benefit of weapons. Best believe that scared them when unarmed people began attacking armed riot squads. Our worst obstacle is ourselves, not the clowns.

Organised crime group of such scale should not be underestimated.

They are incompetent only when it doesn’t affect their power or income.

Americans are the only hope for #liberty on the prison planet i travel.

IF some of their states can successfully break away from Warshington as was attempted in 1860, survive and return to a confederation, that might set a reasonable example to follow for other so called representative democracies.

Under the existing digital oppression, if not slavery, does not seem feasible.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Its not so much I am underestimating them per se, just their garbage control tech. Too many factors involved to get everyone on a complete digital control system. Take a CBDC for example. The infrastructure aside, it would require a large majority of people and businesses to accept it. Good luck. Big banks also are not gonna want to give up their power and a CBDC will do just that. They can try whatever they want, but if there is non-compliance, it cant work. Covid only worked as good as it did because many people were genuinely scared. Cant scare people into a CBDC by telling them they will die. And here we have quite a few states that already banned them. The plans are global but our fights must be local. DC is a lost cause. But we have 50 governors, 50 state legislatures, all the sheriffs (who have ultimate authority in their respective counties), then all the cities and towns. I know other countries dont have the benefit of federalism that we have, but where there is the will there is a way

🙏🏻

Joel Walbert 2y ago

This is how easy it is. One person without a phone and the pushback from trying to punish him scrapped a vaxport scheme.

https://reclaimthenet.org/canada-faces-call-to-scrap-vaccine-passport-app

Most places i go, that would not work. Can’t even get on a flight to Philippines, for example, without filling out their arrival form before the flight.

The airlines simply deny boarding otherwise.

What also comes to mind is this unusual woman that returned to her native Singapore in early lockup and masking nonsense, and was put in mental institution for a couple weeks for refusing to follow the “circuit breaker” policy edicts:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/sovereign-woman-pleads-guilty-to-breaching-covid-19-regulations

She was lucky to escape a longer caging and much bigger pilfering. 🙏🏻

In Singapore, its owners have computer terminals at passport control since the plandemic, where they force all those who don’t have a smartphone or internet access to fill out the arrival form.

That’s before everyone undergoes a facial scan and thumb fingerprinting.

In Thailand, all are since the plandemic forced to undergo a full fingerprinting to enter.

And so on…

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Well, I cant speak on what happens elsewhere, but none of this concerns me in the least. And passport controls are not what we are talking about here though. Those are nothing new. And passport controls will never be an issue for the vast majority people. Only for those who choose to fly. Thats not a cbdc or a digital id or id verification to go online.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Hey curious. Do you need to fly internationally for a work or something that these updated passport controls are a major concern for you?

Yes, international air traveling is such a nuisance nowadays that i only do that for business.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Damn that's a tough one then. Gotta feed yourself.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Another thing to keep in mind, the ones that were competent are either dead or pushing 100. This new generation of control freaks overestimate their competence and intelligence, and when they look at humans as livestock, they underestimate us. Their blind arrogance will be their demise.

🚀 God speed! 🙏🏻

Joel Walbert 2y ago

And a hlobal income tax? That's funny. Never gonna happen.

The Americans have been subject to a global income tax for at least a couple generations, i think.

Even if they don’t owe tax, they have to report income and do tax avoidance at their own expense.

Many other gangsterments are contemplating that, because the digital world facilitates “citizens” having to pay their owners a cut of their labour, even if they live off their plantation as expats.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

That's an IRS thing, nothing to do with global anything. Its reported to the IRS noone else.

The global part just means that no matter where in the world a subject lives, they have to report and pay to their equivalent of IRS.

No need to be under some single global authority.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Well that's not a global income tax. That is a US income tax on ex-pats. One entity and one group does not even almost equate global anything.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Let me sat this, I cannot and do not allow myself to worry about such things. If it happens, I'll figure something out. Made it through an employer jab mandate, which lead to a year of zero income and having to live off all I had saved until I found a job. Now I am making quite literally 25% of what I was making until then and am effectively blacklisted from my career of choice. They tried to starve me out but all they did was create someone with literally nothing to lose. Im still standing and fighting. Nothing they can try at this point will cause me any loss of sleep or one second of worry.

May God help you recover from that abuse!

In territories where I and my associates were stuck in Asia , Oceania and Europe, the choice was get the shots and mark of the beast QR, or cannot even go food shopping, much less travel or go to any public events.

Digital surveillance, such as contact tracing, created personal circumstances exactly like chattel slavery, because even a digital proposal to resist would bring unlimited, “legal”, physical coercion and punishment.

Joel Walbert 2y ago

Yea I understand it was real bad some places. I wasnt trying to downplay the places that were hit hard or anything.

And thank you. All I lost was material possessions though. Still got a roof over my head and My integrity and dna are intact. Those are not for sale ever at any price.