The bride is not given away in orthodox weddings like she is in western weddings (walked down the aisle by a father figure and then handed off to another man) because in eastern theology her being their of her own free will is a requirement for the marriage to take place.

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Well, okay, that's just a dragged-out version. We also have to voice consent, beforehand, at confession.

It’s hard for western Christians to comprehend that there are no vows in orthodox weddings because vows are the main focus of the western weddings but in eastern weddings the main focus is the when the couple is crowned together. That’s why in the east the marriage liturgy is called β€œthe rite of crowning” or the β€œmystery of crowning” πŸ‘‘ πŸ‘‘

Oh, that's pretty.

Maria, can you help me understand what β€œOrthodox Catholic” means.

I assume this is different than Orthodox.

Eastern rite Catholics basically

β€œCatholics”

Eastern rite Catholics are in full communion with the Church of Rome which seems to be your church so why are you putting them in β€œβ€ ??? Weird. I’m not eastern rite I’m Orthodox.

He's a real hardliner. It happens.

He’s also incorrect lol

Insane lmao

I meant what u said

So you didn’t mean Eastern Rite Catholics? Why did you say that then?

Cuz you should be Catholic

You’re telling people who are already Catholic that they should be Catholic? Lol k

Papal supremacy

Yes you don’t agree with the pope about eastern rite Catholics but you’re a Roman Catholic? Why?

lol what πŸ˜‚

You called eastern rite Catholics β€œCatholics” but the RCC doesn’t teach that and doesn’t even have closed communion or anything. Open to high church Protestants and Orthodox Christians according to canon law that I guess you also don’t agree with?

Yea i don’t agree with anything other than what i believe.

Honestly had this conversation way too many times I’m sick of it

I’ve literally never had a conversation with you before…

Oh you’re an independent Catholic? I thought you were Roman Catholic. My bad.

What is wrong with you. That’s ridiculous. I never said that.

Find God

Are you high??

Find God

I’ll take that as a yes πŸ‘‹

I hope he reads your wiki pages!! I muted him after he was saying he was sick of having this discussion as if I had tagged him into it (nobody did he just replied bc he wanted to lol) bc not only have I never discussed this w him before I quite literally have never discussed *anything* w him before and was completely unaware of his existence until yesterday when he had a little meltdown saying β€œfind God” repeatedly and was massively trashing the structure of the church he claims to supposedly be a member of 🀨

Don't worry about it. He's been in a grumpy mood since the war broke out, understandably.

I’m not worried about it I just muted him and hope his mental health improves since he’s clearly not stable right now

The whole existence of your β€œChurch” is cuz of dumb behavior like that

Find God

Nope. Orthodox Catholic is interchangeable with Orthodox Christian. This is an OCA church for example:

Confusing! What is the purpose of adding β€œCatholic” when the Orthodox and Catholic schism exists?

It literally wasn’t added after the schism. Catholic means universal. That’s why Romans, Orthodox, and most Protestants all say β€œI believe in one holy catholic apostolic church” in the creed. Anglo-Catholics and old Catholics and orthodox Catholics are all *not* in communion with Roman Catholics. Romans have never owned the word Catholic they’re just the largest group.

πŸ“

It's like how people from the USA are called "Americans", but Canadians and etc. are also Americans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(disambiguation)

I try to clarify with capitalization. I'm an "orthodox Catholic", but not an "Orthodox Catholic".

That confuses people, too, as I'm using "orthodox" to clarify that I'm neither trad, nor liberal.