Heard 2 dudes talking about trans-humanism, living in pure bliss simulation, no hardship. Sure sounds nice on some days.. but... is life really worth living without hardship? Don't the hard moments make the other moments so much more punchy?

Perhaps some form of hardship is too much, and other is tolerable and needed?

I don't know how I'd feel about living in pure blissful existence without a worry or a struggle in the world.

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Indeed… people too often conflate longevity with some perfect utopia. Even if all diseases were cured with advanced biotechnology and new therapies, there would still be hardships and planetary scarcity.

Sometimes a problem is the reason people are brought together, and a movie without tension certainly isn’t a good one… but there is a limit of course.

4 seasons/perspective

According to Agent Smith, our brains couldn’t process pure happiness and the society collapsed.

Without contrast there is no bliss because bliss is defined by its contrast from non-bliss

They tried that in the first Matrix and the human mind rebelled.

Exactly what I was thinking.

It’s pure fantasy. Firstly, I don’t think they’ll ever actually achieve it, but secondly - think about people today who live without hardship. Kids of wealthy families.

They have everything they could ever want. They’re as close as you can get to “pure bliss”, but are they happy? A ton of them end up addicted. Hedonic adjustment is a real bitch and you end up throwing everything away to chase pleasure. The more you indulge, the more you need to get the same baseline of pleasure.

Humans aren’t meant to live without hardships. The transhumanists just can’t accept that reality.

Free yourself from the algorithms and you'll be in bliss most of the time. Why? Because you get to unconditionally experience the fruits of labour. As nature intended.

Happiness has to be based on something real to be satisfying.

Humans without hardship will always create it.

Some of the most pleasurable experiences are sensations of the cessation of pain. As you observe, you can't even have these if you did not have the pain in the first place.

What a person should be aiming for is a combination of hardships and pleasures. The trick is to get the timing and the proportions right. Many people would do better if they added more hardships to their mix, but there are also people who are getting worn out and would benefit from more pleasures.